$5 PL HE 6-max: Very easy hand and agressive opponent

ljove

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Full Tilt Pot-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt

Button ($1.93)

SB ($3.83)

BB ($9.40)

UTG ($4.39)

MP ($1.35)

Hero (CO) ($3.07)



Preflop: Hero is CO with K
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, 6
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2 folds, Hero calls $0.05, 1 fold, SB calls $0.03, BB checks



Flop: ($0.15) K
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, 6
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, K
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(3 players)

SB checks, BB bets $0.15, Hero calls $0.15, 1 fold



Turn: ($0.45) Q
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(2 players)

BB bets $0.22, Hero calls $0.22



River: ($0.89) A
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(2 players)

BB bets $0.89, Hero raises to $2, BB calls $1.11



Total pot: $4.89 | Rake: $0.32



Results:

BB had 7
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, 3
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(flush, Ace high).

Hero had K
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, 6
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(full house, Kings over sixes).

Outcome: Hero won $4.57
 
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I don't think you understand how the HA section works, this bit of the forum is for hand ANALYSIS.

Analysis - The process of breaking a complex topic or substance into smaller parts to gain a better understanding of it.

I don't think i've seen one hand that you've put on here that requires any sort of analysis at all.

hands like these belong HERE :)
 
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I don't think you understand how the HA section works, this bit of the forum is for hand ANALYSIS.

Analysis - The process of breaking a complex topic or substance into smaller parts to gain a better understanding of it.

I don't think i've seen one hand that you've put on here that requires any sort of analysis at all.

Hands like these belong HERE :)
+1


But this hand could still use some analyses but im 140% sure thats not the reason he posted it.
Few questions come to mind, like:

Why are u limping K6s from the CO? Its garbage but i wouldnt mind trying to steal with it, just fold or raise.

Why are u halfstacking 5NL? At 5nl u can get value from so much garbage that u really should play fullstacked to get max value.

Also not geting a entier stack out of some on at 5nl when u have FH vs his flush is criminal imo...
 
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I did not raise because I wanna play hand.Not steal blinds.Honestly I thought that he is bluffing on flop and after on turn and river.I didn"t expect that he has hit a flush.I wanted to push him to go all in with my little raise on river.
Sorry if my english is not 100% correct.
 
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Don't open limp EVER

As played shove the river, its clear by now he has something so we may as well extract the most money from his Trips/Flush
 
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I think the big issue through the entire hand is the lack of aggression. Especially at these low limits people are not often weighing the strength of their hand vs what you may have. Instead it's simply a matter of "do I have a hand I can call with or could this become one if I catch the right card" if the answer is yes a call often follows. If are in a good position to steal then actively steal it, if you have garbage fold, when you make an unlikely full house bet it and hope to get your hole stack in.
 
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Raise all streets from preflop to the river and play with full stack at this level.
 
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Don't open limp EVER

I take it you have some statistically significant, empirical evidence to back up your implied claim that doing so is always bad? Personally, I would have raised this hand preflop, but black and white claims like the one you've made have pretty much no place in poker.
 
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I take it you have some statistically significant, empirical evidence to back up your implied claim that doing so is always bad? Personally, I would have raised this hand preflop, but black and white claims like the one you've made have pretty much no place in poker.

Type "never open limp" into google.
You shall soon see I am far from alone on this opinion.
 
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Type "never open limp" into google.
You shall soon see I am far from alone on this opinion.

If that's the standard, I get more results typing "begs the question" and those people are almost universally wrong, too.

You can play black and white poker if you want, but blanket poker advice like this is a sure way to lose money. I suspect it wouldn't take me long to find a hand where Ivey or Negreanu open limped. Maybe we should write them and show them the error of their ways.

If you said, "generally open limping is a bad idea" I'd support that. But that's not what you wrote. That's all I have to say about it, so flame away if you must.
 
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If that's the standard, I get more results typing "begs the question" and those people are almost universally wrong, too.

You can play black and white poker if you want, but blanket poker advice like this is a sure way to lose money. I suspect it wouldn't take me long to find a hand where Ivey or Negreanu open limped. Maybe we should write them and show them the error of their ways.

If you said, "generally open limping is a bad idea" I'd support that. But that's not what you wrote. That's all I have to say about it, so flame away if you must.

Flaming?
I'm trying to give you constructive advise.
If you don't want to take it so be it but I certainly wouldn't call me trying to help people improve their game flamings :confused:
 
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Sysvr, I also don't particularly like "50,000,000 fans can't be wrong" statements. As a statement on a forum where people come for info, though, I agree w Deco on this one.

Let me flip it around - in what scenarios would open limping be more +Ev than open raising or folding? The only one I can think of off the top of my head that might work is limping the btn w agg blinds who will raise, we're deepstacked, and the blinds suck postflop - but I'd need to see some math to show it's greater +Ev than simply open raising.

Hope you don't think you're getting flamed around here, I've enjoyed reading your posts.
 
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Don't open limp EVER

As played shove the river, its clear by now he has something so we may as well extract the most money from his Trips/Flush
He had 7-3.He will hardly call on raise.It is good to raise preflop.You will push out blinds out of the game but if you hit your hand then is no matter how many people is involved.You can push everytime preflop and just steal the blinds and limps.After 5-6 preflop raising you can get one call and lose whole stack.It depends of the board.It is just more expensive way to play some conectors.
 
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