I dunno where to find a "river bet" stat, best I can say his aggression goes 3-1-3 and 43-10-21.
For pre, again, yes it's a profitable 4-bet imo, but is it the MOST profitable? If we hand read like shit then of course, avoid more marginal value, but I think with position we can play this well.
Yeah the flop bet is ridiculously easy to call, his check is even weaker and I think I can take it down pretty much every time there. We need to figure out if we want to just take it down there, or try and get more value, also whether he has enough equity against us that we need to bet. My general read was air, so I didn't want him to fold his air. We get a perfect river card imo and he bets. He's FOS at least 1/4 of the time imo.
Originally Posted by cjatud2012
as played I agree that it's a call on the river, but I'm a little confused about some other parts of the hand, I'm not a ring player but would like to learn nonetheless.
So one question I have is what is our plan when we call the 3-bet pre? We have like 5:1 implied odds, so it can't be purely for set mining, and I feel like even though we have position we're gonna have a hard time knowing if we're best on the flop since overcards come so often, and even when we have three undercards we still often won't be best. At least to me that leaves us with the options of jamming or folding, right? Because then it just becomes a question of whether it's +EV.
No, I'm not set-mining you're right, I wanted to play the hand post-flop against an aggressive and overly loose player who I have no real read that will stack off against/call a 4-bet, but will likely own himself post-flop. To determine where we are we need to assign ranges and hand read. It's a little difficult with such a wide range at first, but the rest of the hand will narrow it down, like his small c-bet, check turn.
Now on the flop he's practically min-betting, so I think the call is pretty easy, but then on the turn when he checks, this seems like a normal spot to bet, or is it turning our hand into a bluff too much? At least to me we ought to bet for value against lower pairs, overs and 4-flushes, but again I'm not really sure and am just trying to ask questions.
It is turning our hand into a bluff, and I'm thinking what against? I mean he has TT there maybe sometimes, and he may have more equity than I gave him credit for at the time, but I feel against his range we're strong and the only value is in letting him bluff. I think lower pairs may just fold as it is getting to be a scary board.
Questions are great, they make me try and explain myself in overly long rambles, before being corrected and asked something else