$5 NLHE Heads-up: HU Hand V acky very deep.

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It's play money but 200 chips = $5. He bas been playing fairly tight from the BB, something like 12% 3-bet and 20% call and I've been opening something like 80%. I think he views me as slightly too bluffy (already been caught bluffing in a 400bb pot with K high) and probably knows I stack off too light in big pots. He also knows I'm gonna play draws aggresively.

Flop pretty standard. Turn is where it gets messy. So many draws like J9, 89, J8 all FDs. Also I think he probs has to stack all his turned trips v me. I hate just calling turn as I don't want to give his range a chance to realise it's equity + he can realise I don't have a very strong hand or draw ott then if he is bluffing there are so many rivers he can barrel me off my hand. Then again I'm pretty sure this is nowhere near strong enough to end up putting in 270bbs. I was lsot ott, anyone do anything diifferent?
PokerStars - P2 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3
Hero (SB): P543.00
BB: P910.00
Hero posts SB P1.00, BB posts BB P2.00
Pre Flop: (P3.00) Hero has J:diamond: T:club:
Hero raises to P6.00, BB calls P4.00
Flop: (P12.00, 2 players) T:heart: 3:spade: 7:spade:
BB checks, Hero bets P5.00, BB raises to P18.00, Hero calls P13.00
Turn: (P48.00, 2 players) T:diamond:
BB bets P32.00, Hero raises to P87.00, BB raises to P150.00, Hero raises to P519.00 and is all-in, BB calls P369.00

A relevant hand that happened 10 mins earlier:

PokerStars - P2 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3
Hero (SB): P392.00
BB: P548.00
Hero posts SB P1.00, BB posts BB P2.00
Pre Flop: (P3.00) Hero has 3:club: 3:spade:
Hero raises to P6.00, BB raises to P20.00, Hero calls P14.00
Flop: (P40.00, 2 players) Q:club: 5:club: 3:heart:
BB bets P24.00, Hero raises to P67.00, BB calls P43.00
Turn: (P174.00, 2 players) K:diamond:
BB checks, Hero bets P111.00, BB calls P111.00
River: (P396.00, 2 players) 9:club:
BB checks, Hero bets P194.00 and is all-in, BB calls P194.00
Hero shows 3:club: 3:spade: (Three of a Kind, Threes) (Pre 51%, Flop 74%, Turn 77%)
BB shows A:club: J:club: (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 49%, Flop 26%, Turn 23%)
BB wins P749.00
 
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4 bet on the turn puts us in a shitty enuf spot considering previous action, your correct in saying that you cant just flat his turn reraise, not much draws in his range, if any now, but seems lk to big of a lay down to make and there are worse 10s so...
mehh sick enuf spot were i think you just have to pay him off.

Dont think i would of done anything different, WP.

Il play ya some time this week, will let ya know when im free, going on 'holidays' tomo to the south island so wont know how long until il have internet access again.
 
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Raising the turn is very bad vs. a competent player.
 
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Raising the turn is very bad vs. a competent player.

Even though his range has a tonne of FD + SD type stuff? Do we really want to turn a strong hands for HU into what is effectively a bluffcatcher? What do you do if you call turn, river completes draw and he fires a 70% psb?
 
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Yes. and if you insist on raising the turn anyway, fold to the turn 3-bet.
 
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i agree with baudib i hate raising the turn. while youre right that his range has a ton of drawy stuff, what do you beat apart from that?

i mean, once he 3bs turn, hes either got a T, in which case hes pretty much always got you out kicked, has filled up, or has a draw. therefore imo flat turn & river.
you dont really beat anything here- esp when he calls your raise OTF then donks/3bs the turn. i doubt thats a draw as i really dont think hed think he has any FE here. only exception i can see would be TsXs
 
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Also i think 33 vs. AJ hand illustrates that acky is not necessarily stuffing in 200 BBs on draws here.
 
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We are playing Acky? Ie. Not a competent player :)

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Hand #2 just seems like a cooler, but if Acky isn't stacking wide, you can 4-bet. That's really all I'd change other than making the raises slightly larger.

I kinda wanna fold the flop in hand 1, especially since he's so tight from the BB. You should be insta-chucking a lot of these RIO hands when your stack is threatened 300bb's deep.
 
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Hand #2 just seems like a cooler, but if Acky isn't stacking wide, you can 4-bet. That's really all I'd change other than making the raises slightly larger.

I kinda wanna fold the flop in hand 1, especially since he's so tight from the BB. You should be insta-chucking a lot of these RIO hands when your stack is threatened 300bb's deep.
Yea hand 2 I'm fine with, river sorta sucks but it's w/e imo. Was just posting that since acky played his hand pretty passively imo which obv impacts this hand and my actions. I don't like folding cos acky certainly has a bluff range (although it's mostly semi bluffs imo as oppose to pure air). I mean I can still call and re-evaluate with such deep stacks.
 
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lots of valid points, still not sure about how i played that AJs hand, as in, im not sure if i should of played it more aggressively. I kind of felt like vs your raising range there A high is often in good shape whereas when i commit myself, im probably never ahead. There is merit to playing aggro for the dead money if i have much fold equity, but im not sure... what do others think?
 
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I mean I can still call and re-evaluate with such deep stacks.
I hate this expression. What are you planning to evaluate? Your hand's value doesn't ever change. The only hands the T improves you against are the semibluffs & overpairs. Acky rarely has a semibluff given his tight range, and all the T's he raises the flop with are better.

Acky's range is strong OOP, he has few semibluffs, we have a bluff catcher and we're ~200 big blinds from seeing a showdown. Let it go.
 
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I hate this expression. What are you planning to evaluate? Your hand's value doesn't ever change. The only hands the T improves you against are the semibluffs & overpairs. Acky rarely has a semibluff given his tight range, and all the T's he raises the flop with are better.

Acky's range is strong OOP, he has few semibluffs, we have a bluff catcher and we're ~200 big blinds from seeing a showdown. Let it go.
Evaluate how my equity has changed against his range and whether it's going to be good to continue. I see your point though.
 
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