$5 NLHE Full Ring: What range to you put villain on? What is the next step?

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$5 NL HE Full Ring: What range to you put villain on? What is the next step?

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 18/13/2

Villain folds 75% to C bets over 117 hands.


Full Tilt, $0.02/$0.05 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker
Hero (MP1): $14.24 (284.8 bb)
MP2: $6.35 (127 bb)
MP3: $5 (100 bb)
CO: $5.79 (115.8 bb)
BTN: $5 (100 bb)
SB: $1.68 (33.6 bb)
BB: $5 (100 bb)
UTG+2: $2.50 (50 bb)
Pre-Flop: Hero is MP1 with Q
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Q
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UTG+2 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO calls $0.20, BTN folds, SB folds, BB folds
Flop: ($0.47) 5
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3
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3
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(2 players)
Hero bets $0.40, CO raises to $0.80, Hero calls $0.40
Turn: ($2.07) T
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(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1.40
 
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Why are we not 3betting the flop?
His range on the flop is gonna be mostly overpairs,FDs and some air(since this is the kinda board that doesnt hit us very often)
Along with obvs the 1combo of 33 and the 3 of 55 but other then that about the only 3x and 5x i would expect in a 18/13 range are gonna be some discounted A3s and A5s and MAYBE some 43s/54s/65s.
On the flop we obvs have that range crushed but there are alot of scare cards/action killer that can come on the turn so i like 3betting and stacking of there, if he does show up with 55/33 its just a cooler and if he has AA/KK just note that he flats AA/KK in the CO and move on.


Im not totaly sure about the turn mostly because i dont think we should be in this spot.
This obvs the perfect turn for him to barrel with his air hands but his worse value hands should all have slowed down on the turn(except maybe JhJx?).
Meh im not really sure but im inclined to fold here(hopefully some one else will coment on the turn), when where beat where almost allways facing a river bet/shove but when we have him beat we stand to win nothing more then whats in the pot since im not sure a 18/13 is the type to keep bluffing after we call twice.
 
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He reraised me and usually folds 75% of the time, he acutally caught me off gaurd by rasing here. You are correct, I probably should have reraised him on the flop.
 
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Tough spot. 3-betting the flop makes the hand easy to play, but I'm not sure it gets the maximum value from his entire range of hands. Villains at these stakes when I played can be kinda irrationally scared of a 3 on these boards, so when we come over the top, I think he probably folds a 5x or low overpairs that he min-raised to "see where he is".

I think I like the line you took, except on scary turns like this I would donk the turn. The flush/overcard will often prevent him from valuebetting the weaker parts of his range. So I'd donk the flush card, and fold to a shove, to make sure that we get value from 5x, 66-JJ. Plus, I don't think he can shove anything that's not a flush once we donk the turn. But essentially when we donk the turn, I think he calls a bet with a wider range than he bets himself, thus we should bet the turn.

3-betting the flop isn't a bad way to go though. But what I really don't think you should do is call the flop, and then check/call the turn. Once the 3rd flush card comes down, and villain bets, I think his range gets pretty strong and I'd be considering a check/fold.
 
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