This is a discussion on $5 NLHE Full Ring: Villain calls 3bet oop, bad flop within the online poker forums, in the Cash Game Hand Analysis section; 888 Poker - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BB: 46 BB (VPIP: 15.38, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 40)
fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to 3.4 BB, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, fold, fold, MP+1 calls 6.6 BB
Flop:(21.4 BB, 2 players) 8♠ A♥ J♣
Don't have a lot of hands on him but don't particularly wanna cbet here... What's best?
17th May 2017, 10:20 PM
Online Poker at: 888
I nearly always check behind here. Remember the reasons for betting. To get value from worse or to get better to fold. Neither really applies here, if he has an ace you are bloating a pot in which you are behind with only 2 outs to improve. Realistically what worse hands can he have called a 3bet with that can call a c bet with?
Now having checked you open his bluffing window. Most players will now take a stab at the pot with their full range so you should call the first bet.
If he has the ace he will probably bet the river for value at which point you can safely fold. If he was bluffing on the turn without an ace it's pretty dull to bluff again unless the board is particularly scary. The vast majority just seek to check it down and won't call much of a bet. Have a search for way ahead / way behind situations they happen all the time and you have to get a good grasp of it.
17th May 2017, 10:48 PM
John A [4,920]
Bet versus more passive opponents, check vs. more aggressive opponents. You're betting vs. a more passive opponent because their bluffing range won't open up, and they can sometimes fold better. Additionally, by checking, you're just allowing them to realize their equity, even if it's small. Unless you know them to be a total and utter nit, and you can try and check it down knowing that if they do bet at any street you're beat, and you're plan is to fold.
And you're checking versus a more aggressive player to get his bluffing range to open up. Which in this case, you're typically only calling the turn (unless you have more history).