LD1977
Legend
Silver Level
$5 NLHE Full Ring: Typical 5NL (value betting goes wrong and I get stacked by a fish)
full tilt poker Game #32728619914: Table Zi - NL Hold'em - $0.02/$0.05 - 20:25:54 ET - 2013/05/27
Seat 1: SB ($2.49)
Seat 2: BB ($5)
Seat 3: UTG ($6.55)
Seat 4: UTG+1 ($6.48)
Seat 5: Hero ($6.27)
Seat 6: HJ ($6.87)
Seat 8: CO ($4.83)
Seat 9: BTN ($2.24)
SB posts the small blind of $0.02
BB posts the big blind of $0.05
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [8d 8h]
UTG folds
UTG+1 raises to $0.10
Hero calls $0.10
HJ folds
CO calls $0.10
BTN calls $0.10
SB folds
BB folds
*** FLOP *** [Kd Td 8s] (Total Pot: $0.47, 4 Players)
UTG+1 bets $0.10
Hero raises to $0.35
2 folds
UTG+1 calls $0.25
*** TURN *** [Kd Td 8s] J♣ (Total Pot: $1.17, 2 Players)
UTG+1 checks
Hero bets $2.20
UTG+1 calls $2.20
*** RIVER *** [Kd Td 8s Jc] Q♥ (Total Pot: $5.57, 2 Players)
UTG+1 bets $3.83, and is all in
Hero calls $3.62, and is all in
Uncalled bet of $0.21 returned to UTG+1
*** SHOW DOWN ***
UTG+1 shows [Ad Jd] a straight, Ace high
Hero mucks
UTG+1 wins the pot ($12.17) with a straight, Ace high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $12.81 | Rake $0.64
OK I have converted this crap by hand since HEM export of FT hands is garbage.
UTG+1 is a MEGA fish who is only winning pots against me and bleeds money all over the place otherwise.
This type of hand is basically the main reason I am losing at 5NL. There are mistakes and leaks but this is BY FAR the loss leader. None of this shows on any EV diff. or anything like that... BTW I checked and I am breaking even when calling all ins so only if I could improve this hand type I would be easily in the black instead of bleeding money slowly.
Scenario is always the same, I value bet into a mega fish and in 80% of the cases he hits what he needs on the river (nevermind that his equity is 25% even with the combo draw).
I call the river shove since he is a retard and will shove any 2 pairs or even some kind of medium pair/broken draw because why not.
0. 3betting is pretty questionable since I get the money in 100% of the time with a set if the whale hits any piece of the board and he isn't folding to a 3bet anyway.
1. Overbet on the turn is because he WILL call 100% of the time if he called the flop raise and pretty much always he is drawing to something. It is large enough to even make a combo draw unprofitable (in theory). He will also call the river shove 100% of the time since he definitely has some kind of pair here and he doesn't know the fold button exists.
2. Is it really profitable for him to call the turn 100% of the time with any draw (note that in this case the draw is pretty good and STILL his equity is only 25%)?
*** Seriously, people who do this against me are minting money at a truly astonishing rate and I always find that purely mathematically it is unprofitable to call. Maybe I suck at math?
Edit: Yes I can shove the turn but MAYBE he folds... note that I fired 2x pot and he cold called it easy peasy so the max amount is somewhere between 2x and a shove. It just looks ridiculous when I overbet like this (I do it exclusively against this player type and it SHOULD be profitable but instead I am getting murdered).
full tilt poker Game #32728619914: Table Zi - NL Hold'em - $0.02/$0.05 - 20:25:54 ET - 2013/05/27
Seat 1: SB ($2.49)
Seat 2: BB ($5)
Seat 3: UTG ($6.55)
Seat 4: UTG+1 ($6.48)
Seat 5: Hero ($6.27)
Seat 6: HJ ($6.87)
Seat 8: CO ($4.83)
Seat 9: BTN ($2.24)
SB posts the small blind of $0.02
BB posts the big blind of $0.05
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [8d 8h]
UTG folds
UTG+1 raises to $0.10
Hero calls $0.10
HJ folds
CO calls $0.10
BTN calls $0.10
SB folds
BB folds
*** FLOP *** [Kd Td 8s] (Total Pot: $0.47, 4 Players)
UTG+1 bets $0.10
Hero raises to $0.35
2 folds
UTG+1 calls $0.25
*** TURN *** [Kd Td 8s] J♣ (Total Pot: $1.17, 2 Players)
UTG+1 checks
Hero bets $2.20
UTG+1 calls $2.20
*** RIVER *** [Kd Td 8s Jc] Q♥ (Total Pot: $5.57, 2 Players)
UTG+1 bets $3.83, and is all in
Hero calls $3.62, and is all in
Uncalled bet of $0.21 returned to UTG+1
*** SHOW DOWN ***
UTG+1 shows [Ad Jd] a straight, Ace high
Hero mucks
UTG+1 wins the pot ($12.17) with a straight, Ace high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $12.81 | Rake $0.64
OK I have converted this crap by hand since HEM export of FT hands is garbage.
UTG+1 is a MEGA fish who is only winning pots against me and bleeds money all over the place otherwise.
This type of hand is basically the main reason I am losing at 5NL. There are mistakes and leaks but this is BY FAR the loss leader. None of this shows on any EV diff. or anything like that... BTW I checked and I am breaking even when calling all ins so only if I could improve this hand type I would be easily in the black instead of bleeding money slowly.
Scenario is always the same, I value bet into a mega fish and in 80% of the cases he hits what he needs on the river (nevermind that his equity is 25% even with the combo draw).
I call the river shove since he is a retard and will shove any 2 pairs or even some kind of medium pair/broken draw because why not.
0. 3betting is pretty questionable since I get the money in 100% of the time with a set if the whale hits any piece of the board and he isn't folding to a 3bet anyway.
1. Overbet on the turn is because he WILL call 100% of the time if he called the flop raise and pretty much always he is drawing to something. It is large enough to even make a combo draw unprofitable (in theory). He will also call the river shove 100% of the time since he definitely has some kind of pair here and he doesn't know the fold button exists.
2. Is it really profitable for him to call the turn 100% of the time with any draw (note that in this case the draw is pretty good and STILL his equity is only 25%)?
*** Seriously, people who do this against me are minting money at a truly astonishing rate and I always find that purely mathematically it is unprofitable to call. Maybe I suck at math?
Edit: Yes I can shove the turn but MAYBE he folds... note that I fired 2x pot and he cold called it easy peasy so the max amount is somewhere between 2x and a shove. It just looks ridiculous when I overbet like this (I do it exclusively against this player type and it SHOULD be profitable but instead I am getting murdered).
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