$5 NLHE Full Ring: Two overcards and a gutshot worth a C-bet or CR-shove?

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$5 NL HE Full Ring: Two overcards and a gutshot worth a C-bet or CR-shove?

Hello again People! Just a few hands whittle dowm from a great many troublesome spots from the last 2000 or so played. I tried to include HUD stats but PTS was not cooporating! If you assume the average for the levels I play of about 21/9 with a steal% of 19 unless I indicate otherwise we shouldnt be far off the mark!

OK, lets get to it!

pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($4.13)
Hero (UTG) ($3.50)
UTG+1 ($10.33)
MP1 ($17.13)
MP2 ($1.75)
CO ($4.06)
Button ($2.92)
SB ($4.97)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J
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, A
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Hero bets $0.20, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.20, 2 folds, Button calls $0.20, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.67) 5
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, 4
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, 3
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(3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $0.35, 1 fold, Hero folds

Are 2 overcards and a gut shot OOP against two others worth a C-bet or a CR-shove?


Total pot: $0.67 | Rake: $0.03

Results below:
MP1 didn't show
Outcome: MP1 won $0.64
 
WVHillbilly

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I cbet that every time and double a lot of turn cards (any club, A, K, Q, J, 2).
 
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Ok, I guess you dont feel my play was HORRIBLE here. I am always cautios when OOP against two opponents.
 
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What is your cbet % I would cbet that damn near every time aswell.
 
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OK... why would you C-bet this? If I do C-bet I like to have a reason. I mean its quite a dry board but my position is obviously bad. Are you saying you would C-bet it because of the 2 overcards and a gutshot I mentioned before?

LOL I only just figured out that I had 10 outs OMG I must have played this badly!
 
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Obv. Im just adding my input. But would like to open some further discussionabout this.

But I would never c-bet this out of position in a multiway pot.

Here's my reasoning. Your not going to get many folds on this brd. Regardless of the villains. If their fish theyll call IP with a wide range here. If their better players theyll peel with a wide range here too. I just think their will be too many turns here that I cant barrell against 2 player OOP.

If it were HU. I WOULD cbet here provided the villain isnt a call station. Because there are more opportunities to fire another barrell if I miss agian.


Thoughts?
 
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OK... why would you C-bet this? If I do C-bet I like to have a reason. I mean its quite a dry board but my position is obviously bad. Are you saying you would C-bet it because of the 2 overcards and a gutshot I mentioned before?

LOL I only just figured out that I had 10 outs OMG I must have played this badly!

You probably do have 10 actual outs but your range has tons of outs. Like I said you can barrel any A/K/Q/J/5 and any club will give you even more outs for the river. This is a board you have to cbet because there are so many good turn cards for you.
 
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Ok lets say the turn comes a Q and at that point you barrell again because you have to and get another call(even worse both) then if the river bricks would you fire again? WHat if the river comes a J.

Im not good enough yet. Id keep it simple here being OOP in a multiway pot I think.
 
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