$5 NLHE Full Ring: Trying to play/value bet a small FD/flush (72 sooted baby!)

LD1977

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MP2 ($2)
CO ($5)
Button ($4.08)
SB ($1.90)
Hero (BB) ($5.07)
UTG ($5.07)
UTG+1 ($2.71)
MP1 ($4.72)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7
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, 2
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4 folds, CO calls $0.05, Button calls $0.05, SB calls $0.03, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.20) 8
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, J
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, 6
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(4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.15, CO calls $0.15, 1 fold, SB calls $0.15

Turn: ($0.65) Q
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(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.48, CO calls $0.48, 1 fold

River: ($1.61) 10
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(2 players)
Hero bets $0.90, CO calls $0.90

Total pot: $3.41 | Rake: $0.17

This guy is 21 / 11 / 1.8% 3bet over 750 hands. AF 2.3 (41%).

Fold to flop cbet = 40%
Fold to turn cbet = 0% (!) He is one of "those" :D

No reads.

1. Line check? Bet sizing in particular.

Results below:
Hero had 7
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, 2
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(flush, Queen high).
CO had 10
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, J
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(two pair, Jacks and tens).
Outcome: Hero won $3.24
 
Yoshimiii

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I don't see what can call you OTR apart from a 9, or a FD so I would bet bigger, near pot size.

Edit, looked at results: how are people so bad?
 
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Busted FD wouldn't call river, no? Or you mean pot size on the turn?

Minority of people in 5NL plays draws aggressively, so when I do it they rarely put me on a draw. Meaning, I get called by a lot of stuff.
 
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Busted FD wouldn't call river, no? Or you mean pot size on the turn?

Minority of people in 5NL plays draws aggressively, so when I do it they rarely put me on a draw. Meaning, I get called by a lot of stuff.

Sorry I meant flush not FD.

I meant near pot river as I thought villain wouldn't call with anything but a 9 or a flush, but as shown in the results I was clearly wrong. Still you played hand fine, no clear mistakes anywhere, only debating point is OTR about a bigger bet size, but that's it. Nothing major.
 
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From his perspective, if he can't imagine anyone playing draws aggressively, I can't have a straight (T9) or a flush so he simply calls with all sets and 2 pair hands.

Although I would expect sets to raise at some point unless he is really careful about flushes, in that case he convinced himself to call the river.

Proper sizing is questionable but without notes I wanted to be sure to get a call (also, if he suddenly wakes up and jams it then I can fold my puny flush cheaply).
 
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Shove the river. He'll have plenty of 2 pair and straights in his range and he's a non-believer.
 
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Shove the river. He'll have plenty of 2 pair and straights in his range and he's a non-believer.

This! No point going 3/4 pot or whatever, villain's either going to call any bet, or fold to any bet. Since you are well ahead of his calling range you should ship it here.
 
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Dunno, if I shove maybe he takes another look at the board. But definitely a bigger bet is the idea.

If he has a better flush, I count it as a cooler?
 
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Dunno, if I shove maybe he takes another look at the board. But definitely a bigger bet is the idea.

If he has a better flush, I count it as a cooler?

Yes, flush over flush are very rare.
 
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