$5 NLHE Full Ring: Situation Advice

This is a situation I run into quite often, and I'm sure I'm not alone there. In my quest for improving my post-flop play, I'm looking for advice on my read on him and the way I played the hand.

You can see the villain is quite the nit. I had seen him 3-bet pre to fold later on the Turn or River. I'd seen him call raises pre, and fold to River C-Bet after calling C-Bets on the Flop and Turn. I do not have a good read on his actual cards played as he seldom goes to showdown.

Here, after calling my raise pre, I have him on 22 - 1010, AK, AQ S, maybe suited connectors. I am discounting JJ + simply because of the fact he didn't 3-bet pre-. The past dozen hands or so before this one I had had a decent run of cards and raised pre- quite often so he would have known I didn't have monsters every time. His raise on the Flop I assumed was representing a FD.

So I welcome your thoughts, good or bad.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.83, PFR: 14.58, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 48)
Hero (UTG+1): 114.8 BB
MP: 222.2 BB (VPIP: 29.09, PFR: 17.15, 3Bet Preflop: 3.24, Hands: 531)
CO: 101 BB (VPIP: 8.38, PFR: 6.70, 3Bet Preflop: 2.82, Hands: 180)
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 18.42, PFR: 11.84, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 80)
SB: 39.4 BB (VPIP: 36.99, PFR: 17.81, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 73)
BB: 95.4 BB (VPIP: 14.33, PFR: 10.22, 3Bet Preflop: 4.67, Hands: 1,065)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K:heart: A:spade:

fold, Hero raises to 3.4 BB, fold, CO calls 3.4 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (8.2 BB, 2 players) K:diamond: 2:spade: Q:diamond:
Hero bets 5 BB, CO raises to 14.6 BB, Hero calls 9.6 BB

Turn: (37.4 BB, 2 players) 7:club:
Hero bets 23 BB, CO calls 23 BB

River: (83.4 BB, 2 players) 2:diamond:
Hero bets 43 BB, CO raises to 60 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 17 BB

if you're going to just flat on the flop don't then lead out on the turn, he was the last player to show aggression so check to him and go from there, if you're putting him solely on a FD then there is no logic in flatting the flop.

I agree with greek dude, don't lead out on the turn.
If you think he has a flush draw you can either re-raise on the flop or check raise on the turn.
If you think he would fold his FD to a 4bet on the turn go with the second option

OK guys, thanks for the input.

Obviously my read on him was wrong. I don't know if I've missed something in his play or maybe he saw something in my play that he could take advantage of. Either way I got played like a fiddle.

Had I 3-bet his raise on the flop I'm guessing he would have shoved, maybe not, but it would have given me a better idea of where he was even if he had called and maybe I would have lost less.

Here's the hand in full.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.83, PFR: 14.58, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 48)
Hero (UTG+1): 114.8 BB
MP: 222.2 BB (VPIP: 29.09, PFR: 17.15, 3Bet Preflop: 3.24, Hands: 531)
CO: 101 BB (VPIP: 8.38, PFR: 6.70, 3Bet Preflop: 2.82, Hands: 180)
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 18.42, PFR: 11.84, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 80)
SB: 39.4 BB (VPIP: 36.99, PFR: 17.81, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 73)
BB: 95.4 BB (VPIP: 14.33, PFR: 10.22, 3Bet Preflop: 4.67, Hands: 1,065)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K:heart: A:spade:

fold, Hero raises to 3.4 BB, fold, CO calls 3.4 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (8.2 BB, 2 players) K:diamond: 2:spade: Q:diamond:
Hero bets 5 BB, CO raises to 14.6 BB, Hero calls 9.6 BB

Turn: (37.4 BB, 2 players) 7:club:
Hero bets 23 BB, CO calls 23 BB

River: (83.4 BB, 2 players) 2:diamond:
Hero bets 43 BB, CO raises to 60 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 17 BB

CO shows Q:heart: Q:club: (Full House, Queens full of Twos) (Pre 57%, Flop 97%, Turn 100%)
Hero shows K:heart: A:spade: (Two Pair, Kings and Twos) (Pre 43%, Flop 3%, Turn 0%)
CO wins 195 BB

yup about to say an 8:6 villain is a super nit, i don't think he gets too out of line with a flush draw, you can't dismiss JJ/QQ from these guys range because they'll usually only ever 3bet AA/KK, this is tough to get away from but usually when a nit has it they'll certainly let you know, they don't get carried away with top pair and draw type hands.

Whenever a NIT is raising you, you can be pretty sure you're beat with just a pair tbh... Im either folding on the flop or check folding turn. Leading the turn is terrible.

I am not capable to use stats coz I dont use them BUT y should check AF + Agg Freq% to have an idea of what he's playing. 180 hands wont be enough to these stat to be useful (not yet).

Try to find out how passive flop Villain his. The most he is, the most y should fold.

Readless I would have 4b/called flop and taken a (old school) note on Villain ESPECIALLY if villain might be a reg.
vs rdm villain I might have folded flop a decent number of time.

Last observation is to do not forget that at the NL-nothing opponents tend to overrate and overplay their hands

thatgreekdude said:

if you're going to just flat on the flop don't then lead out on the turn, he was the last player to show aggression so check to him and go from there, if you're putting him solely on a FD then there is no logic in flatting the flop.

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My thoughts exactly. And I don't know about the river bet, that diamond would have scared me. I would have tried to get to a show down as cheaply as possible.