$5 NLHE Full Ring: Set vs tightish players all in

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100 hands on him, 21/18, pretty agro. I dont know about my flop call, so speak about that as well..... He was a c-bettor so I thought seeing a turn could get more action for me, which it did, but I am thinking semi- bluff FD (AKh, AQh) AA-22... I have so much of his range beaten, so dont know if I can, or want to, get away from this here. But when he shoves on me here, I know I have not seen him get out of line, nor has he seen me do anything stupid. I run around 17/13 there abouts, if he is tracking, although on this table I dont know exactly how my stats were.

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- $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem (6 players)
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SB: $2.29
BB: $6.10
UTG: $1.70
MP: $12.67
CO: $2.78
BTN Hero: $13.17

Pre-flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN and dealt :6s4: :6d4:
UTG calls $0.05, MP raises to $0.20, CO folds, Hero calls $0.20, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.67) :9c4: :6h4: :4h4: (3 players)
UTG checks, MP bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, UTG folds

Turn: ($1.67) :9c4: :6h4: :4h4: :3s4: (2 players)
MP bets $1.10, Hero raises to $2.35, MP raises to $11 (All-in), Hero ???
 
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If he folds a lot to raises when he cbets I don't mind a call otf but I usually raise there, there's a lot to get value from, ott when he puts you in I see his range as like mainly overs and Axhh hands, plus the odd 99,44 or 33. There's no way I fold to the shove, there's too much that you beat imo
 
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thought this was 10nl, not sure if deepness changes things!

I prob raise more ott too, still, I think your line looks floaty/semibluffing enough for him to even chuck the odd crazy no Fe bluff in too, more reason to call I guess
 
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Obviously snap. I'd most likely put him on an overpair here or AQ,AK of hearts seeing as he raised 4x pre. As for flop i'd put in a raise probaly, just because you're so deep. Not sure about what to do if it's a heart turn card but i'd probably bet again. A flush is unlikely and a fourth heart will kill your action if he hasn't got one, or beat you if he has. He's also likely to call OTT w/ AhQd kind of hand as he's picked up the flush draw. So in heinsight i'd actually bet a heart turn
 
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If your plan is to raise turn because of their high c bet % then Id make it $3.50 at least and then call it off obv.

I think the only thing in their range that beats you here is 99 so its a snap call.
 
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Snap call turn (don't fold sets).

I raise the flop here with my sets and my FDs.
 
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not even when we're this deep against this guy?

fwiw I like raising the flop
Nope. You don't think he plays 44 the same as 99? We can def. see AA/KK here as well.

I wouldn't even consider folding.
 
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Nope. You don't think he plays 44 the same as 99? We can def. see AA/KK here as well.

I wouldn't even consider folding.

That's true but I don't know about seeing QQ+ show up here too often(even though i know it's lol5nl)
 
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Not a known good ring player but this is a snap call for me.
 
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Fwiw, I think you have to call. The only hand that has you crushed is 99. You can't really include 57 in his range can you? Even if it is you've got a ton of outs. If its a flush draw you are blocking 2 of his outs leaving him with only 7. You are playing his range, not his hand, and his range that is ahead of you is minuscule.
 
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Fold pre if u don't want to stack off when you hit.
 
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Raise the flop big. Turn raise is much too small. Find any way to get this in, so yes call the turn as played. As we discussed, this is only close if you have bottom set. With middle set there is a 50% likelihood of him having a lower set on the flop and he has other stuff besides sets anyways.
 
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