$5 NLHE Full Ring: RUSH AK facing 4-bet shove from a shortie...

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Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

No particular reads but they all average around 16/8 with a steal of 22!

MP3 ($3.42)
CO ($2.95)
Button ($4.81)
SB ($2.71)
BB ($5.55)
UTG ($2.45)
UTG+1 ($14.08)
MP1 ($9.19)
Hero (MP2) ($5)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A
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, K
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UTG bets $0.15, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.52, 5 folds, UTG raises to $2.45 (All-In), Hero calls $1.93

I am fairly certain I played this one well. I would like to know how big his stack would need to be for you guys to call this a fold?
 
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Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

No particular reads but they all average around 16/8 with a steal of 22!

MP3 ($3.42)
CO ($2.95)
Button ($4.81)
SB ($2.71)
BB ($5.55)
UTG ($2.45)
UTG+1 ($14.08)
MP1 ($9.19)
Hero (MP2) ($5)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A
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, K
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UTG bets $0.15, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.52, 5 folds, UTG raises to $2.45 (All-In), Hero calls $1.93

I am fairly certain I played this one well. I would like to know how big his stack would need to be for you guys to call this a fold?

He shoved $ 2.45 into a .67 pot. So would need to call $ 1.93 to win a $ 3.12 pot. To make this call +EV you would need 62% equity vs. his range.
For that to happen he would need to be 3betting about 15% of the time, which basically means something like 77+ A7s+ ATo+ K9s+ KTo+ QTs+ QJo JTs.

That is a HUGE 3bet range. You said he probably ran 16/8 so his entire PFR is 8 which is half the 3bet range you would need to make this move.

You should have folded.
 
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He shoved $ 2.45 into a .67 pot. So would need to call $ 1.93 to win a $ 3.12 pot. To make this call +EV you would need 62% equity vs. his range.
For that to happen he would need to be 3betting about 15% of the time, which basically means something like 77+ A7s+ ATo+ K9s+ KTo+ QTs+ QJo JTs.

That is a HUGE 3bet range. You said he probably ran 16/8 so his entire PFR is 8 which is half the 3bet range you would need to make this move.

You should have folded.

How did you calculate the 15%? When I plug that range into PS, you are indeed correct, but I can't figure out how you worked backwards to arrive at that percentage.
 
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He shoved $ 2.45 into a .67 pot. So would need to call $ 1.93 to win a $ 3.12 pot. To make this call +EV you would need 62% equity vs. his range.
For that to happen he would need to be 3betting about 15% of the time, which basically means something like 77+ A7s+ ATo+ K9s+ KTo+ QTs+ QJo JTs.

That is a HUGE 3bet range. You said he probably ran 16/8 so his entire PFR is 8 which is half the 3bet range you would need to make this move.

You should have folded.

This is very wrong. 1st the total pot is $3.04 (his whole stack + blinds + our .52) and we need to call 1.93. The formula for determining how much equity we need to make a +EV call is amount to call / pot + amount to call, in this case 1.93 / 4.97 or a little less than 39%. Which means we only need his range to include JJ+/AK to make the call.
 
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makin this call all day.. ~50BBs....yep...all day at this limit
 
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