$5 NLHE Full Ring: RUSH: AA vs AKs w/fd.

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$5 NL HE Full Ring: RUSH: AA vs AKs w/fd.

full tilt poker $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 552607
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CO: $1.65
Hero (BTN): $2.93
SB: $3.73
BB: $5.80
UTG: $1.41
UTG+1: $2.28
UTG+2: $9.51
MP1: $2.05
MP2: $1.95

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN with K A
2 folds, UTG+2 raises to $0.15, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.45, 2 folds, UTG+2 raises to $0.95, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.97) 4 K 6 (2 players)
UTG+2 bets $1.97,

So I don't know much about the player, no RUSH HUD. Just playing to clear the bonus. I might overplay AK/AKs, should I be 3betting preflop with it? I didn't push preflop, because I figured if he 4bet he had to have something, so I called to see what kind of flop there was.
I flopped TPTK, but would be no good if he had AA/KK, if he has QQ im good I think, but would he 4bet with QQ oop?
If he did have AA could we justify making a coinflip here? I guess if he has KK were a dog tho. But we have the NUT FD.
 
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1. Why are you playing shortstacked? I don't think shortstacking is ideal at these stakes (some argue at any stakes) and frankly putting 1/3 of your stack in pre is absurd, 5-bet shove and be done with it. I mean, the purpose, if there is one, of shortstacking is to deny implied odds to speculative hands when you're at the top of your range...you have AKs, aka THE NUTS with 59 BBs.

2. As played, are you kidding me, fistpump shove the flop and hope he calls.
 
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I didn't have auto top up selected, and lost a 2$ the hand before. Just trying to clear a bonus..I was acctually pissed when I realized I didn't have 100bb, stoopid mistake on my part, should just leave that thing checked..
I was not shortstacking, nor do I... so your shortstack theory is wrong for me..
I was trying to just clear the bonus, and should have had auto top up seleceted, but like I said I didn't and let my stack dwindle before I knew it... I actually tried to top up, but it didn't register until next hand.

I thought 40bb or less was Shortstacking anyway, actually I though 30 and below was technically SS, but I consider anything under 40bb ss. 50-70 medium, 80-100 is big(almost deep stack), but 150+ is deep..
I would consider myself medium stacked here...since 100bb is max buy in..

I figured if he had AA and I shoved, than that would be bad. When he 4bet me I wanted to fold having suspicions of him hold AA , but already had money in and didn't want to so I called to see the flop, instead of shoving when I know I am behind.. why would you shove AKs when u suspect u are against AA and hope that he calls? I guess I don't understand..
wasn't me 3betting denying him odds? I think if he was going by odds, and had a speculative hand @ 5nl, do you think he would 4bet? I don't think half know what odds are at 5nl lol.
 
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Flatting a 4-bet this shallow with AK and folding when you miss is really bad....folding when you hit is absurd...doing anything other than getting your stack in on this flop is unspeakable. if you really think he has AA then calling the four-bet is bad but if he has anything else in his range (and you said you have no stats or reads) just ship it in pre this shallow.
 
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I see what ur saying.Thanks for the response!

Here is the result:

UTG+2 bets $1.97, Hero raises to $1.98 all in, UTG+2 calls $0.01

Turn: ($5.93) 3 :club: (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($5.93) 3 :heart: (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $5.93
Hero shows K :club: A :club: (a flush, Ace high)
UTG+2 shows A :heart: A :spade: (two pair, Aces and Threes)
Hero wins $5.54
(Rake: $0.39)

I was behind preflop for sure, but only a coin flip after the flop with me behind a little, and knew I couldn't fold. But I did have him on the right hand.
 
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Insta shove, TPTK with the flush draw? If your gonna fold to that then you better just fold preflop.
 
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Yeah I knew on the flop I had no choice but to shove.. But when u have AK preflop and make a 3bet and the original raiser re-raises you, should you just come over the top? Is it ever ok to flat to see the flop? I just find myself getting into trouble with AK whenever I come over the top, and feel maybe I overplay it? Maybe I just remember the bad results and forgot about the good results. And I mean with a full stack or more, 100bb+, not sss.
 
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I play a lot more 6-max than FR so I really can't say...in most spots in 6-max, esp. in CO/BTN or BvB hands, I'm cool with stacking AKs for 100 BBs, and definitely with QQ. few people four-bet light at these stakes so I can see a fold if we were deeper.
 
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I wouldn't stack with AK preflop because at best your probably at a race, especially if its a four bet. Every once in a while maybe some idiot goes with AQ-AJ but no way do you want to go in preflop like that in a cash game. When people show resistance to my AK I usually slow way down cuz it can get you in a lot of trouble. A flop like that though you just gotta go with.
 
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