$5 NLHE Full Ring: QQ raise, reraise, shove....

fletchdad

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400 hands on villain, 14/12 3bet 2% I run maybe 15/12 if he tracks...


Poker Stars - $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em (9 players)
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SB: $4.06
BB: $6.31
UTG: $5.07
UTG+1: $2.55
MP: $3.19
MP+1: $8.91
MP+2: $3.93
CO Hero: $12.50
BTN: $6.50

Pre-flop: ($0.07) Hero is CO and dealt :qd4: :qc4:
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $0.15, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, 2 folds, BB raises to $6.31 (All-in), UTG+1 folds, Hero??
 
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3bet 2% - shoves 126 BB pre ?

Hand 0: 59.952% 57.22% 02.73% 111702276 5326056.00 { JJ+ }
Hand 1: 40.048% 37.32% 02.73% 72848268 5326056.00 { QQ }

Fold
 
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I mean, yea I snap folded.

While reviewing, I started thinking... Why the over bet?

I would almost always fold here, but was just wondering why he shoved, if he had AA-KK wouldnt he WANT us in? (The other guy was 14/12 and 8%3bet). A smaller raise could have had a call or 4 bet..........
 
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Hard to say what villain thought here - maybe he thought that with that massive overbet he could convince you that he just didn't have it and make you call ?

(you were already thinking in that direction when reviewing)

I don't think that your perceived 3bet range was in spazz-zone either that session.
 
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I think it's a fold but this range estimate is wrong imo:
3bet 2% - shoves 126 BB pre ?

Hand 0: 59.952% 57.22% 02.73% 111702276 5326056.00 { JJ+ }
Hand 1: 40.048% 37.32% 02.73% 72848268 5326056.00 { QQ }

Fold
It's QQ+/AK.
 
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I think it's a fold but this range estimate is wrong imo:

It's QQ+/AK.

Possible - I just put in 2% in pokerstove and didn't redo it.

Anyhow - QQ+/AK is 2.6% but the outcome is similar

- from my observation AK/QQ+ is more standard than JJ+ so you're probably right.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 59.793% 57.93% 01.86% 172607388 5540034.00 { QQ+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 40.207% 38.35% 01.86% 114253440 5540034.00 { QQ }
 
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Possible - I just put in 2% in pokerstove and didn't redo it.

Anyhow - QQ+/AK is 2.6% but the outcome is similar

- from my observation AK/QQ+ is more standard than JJ+ so you're probably right.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 59.793% 57.93% 01.86% 172607388 5540034.00 { QQ+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 40.207% 38.35% 01.86% 114253440 5540034.00 { QQ }
Yeah I meant to say that our equity is basically the same. So you conclusion was right just wanted to point out that I thought your range was a little off.
 
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Pretty easy fold for me a bit deep. I don't expect a standard looking (probably multi-tabling) TAG to just cold 4 bet shove here with something that isn't the nuts. Maybe this is AK once in a blue moon. Probably the worst hand he ever shows up with though.
 
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