$5 NLHE Full Ring: Ok line?

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pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (7 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Hero (UTG) ($5)
MP1 ($4.93)
MP2 ($6.70)
CO ($6.31)
Button ($5)
SB ($4.73)
BB ($1.70)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 10
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, 10
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Hero raises to $0.20, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.20, 3 folds, BB calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.62) K
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, 6
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, 8
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(3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.44, MP2 calls $0.44, 1 fold

Turn: ($1.50) 3
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(2 players)
Hero bets $0.72, MP2 calls $0.72

River: ($2.94) Q
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(2 players)
Hero bets $1.41, MP2 calls $1.41

Total pot: $5.76 | Rake: $0.24
 
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bet on turn is not OK, other movies are correct IMHO
 
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The flop bet is borderline. Turn is not so good. What's calling on the river that you beat?
 
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do we check back the flop and check fold turn / river?
 
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I probably ch/call 1 street. The flop is super close because we're against 2 players.
 
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I'm fine betting the river (Clarkmeister theorem applies here) and the flop. Turn bet does seem like spew though. Nothing better is folding, nothing worse is calling on the turn.
 
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I'm fine betting the river (Clarkmeister theorem applies here) and the flop. Turn bet does seem like spew though. Nothing better is folding, nothing worse is calling on the turn.

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I'm fine betting the river (Clarkmeister theorem applies here) and the flop. Turn bet does seem like spew though. Nothing better is folding, nothing worse is calling on the turn.

With the Clarkmeister theorem we should be expecting a lot of folds right? Does this mean we are turning our hand into a bluff with the T of clubs?

If you had the Ace of clubs would you still bet or check/raise here? (Assuming villain is a competent player, I think against a fish betting should be fairly standard).
 
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generally the theorm is all about bluffing in that spot because the other person will be making a ton of folds even with weak flushes.
 
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I don't think it applies here because he's not folding better flushes.
 
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The theorem is not about bluffing. It states that out of position, a bluff or value bet is likely more +EV than check/calling, and there is no hand in which check/calling is more profitable.

It's one of the least good theorems, as it has a lot of caveats (avg opponent, was made for limit), but I think it applies in this spot pretty well.
 
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Oh well thanks c9 i didnt know much bout the theories til this thread
 
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I'm fine betting the river (Clarkmeister theorem applies here) and the flop.

Surprised to see so many people saying this... it seems like a river bet accomplishes nothing against a sane villian.
 
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Regular UTG bet is 4XBB, but with our T's we really want to push people off so I would bet more like 5-6XBB. Guessing we would be going into the flop heads up had you bet more UTG w/pocket T's. As played I would only check the flop multi w/an over card showing. We don't want to bluff multi. Not going to be profitable over time. Usually multi odds are someone hit the flop. As played I am doing some serious thinking on that river card, villain aint calling your bet unless they have a pretty high club in their hand. Guessing they had K with either a A club or J club.
 
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Are you asking me a question I'm not sure what it is. Try again.
 
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I like your bet river but not the value.

I would bet less and see whats his reaction.

If he would go on top, I would surely give up.
 
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Are you asking me a question I'm not sure what it is. Try again.

He wants to know if you're suggesting the you vary your opening bet size based on your hand strength?
 
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Worst flop for this hand. Maybe, check-fold on flop...
 
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He wants to know if you're suggesting the you vary your opening bet size based on your hand strength?

That is actually a good point. I usually vary my bet size based on position, I make the exception when I have pocket pairs 77-JJ UTG. UTG w/those pairs I bet 5-6XBB. Standard 4XBB. I hate getting PP in early position. I don't limp w/them either. I NEVER limp. I try to stick to a fold or bet.
 
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Turn play makes no sense to me. Rest of it looks okay I guess.
 
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