$5 NLHE Full Ring: Multiway pot and flop TPTK

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pokerstars - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

MP+1: 114.6 BB (VPIP: 26.97, PFR: 9.55, 3Bet Preflop: 1.45, hands: 182)
MP+2: 94.4 BB (VPIP: 9.85, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 2.68, Hands: 329)
CO: 73.8 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 24.56, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 58)
BTN: 120.4 BB (VPIP: 11.54, PFR: 6.73, 3Bet Preflop: 2.56, Hands: 105)
SB: 100.4 BB (VPIP: 14.14, PFR: 8.37, 3Bet Preflop: 0.56, Hands: 511)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 6.06, 3Bet Preflop: 5.13, Hands: 101)
UTG: 111.4 BB (VPIP: 20.45, PFR: 15.40, 3Bet Preflop: 7.28, Hands: 399)
UTG+1: 116.6 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 7.95, 3Bet Preflop: 1.87, Hands: 266)
Hero (MP): 114.8 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Ah Qc
fold, UTG+1 raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB, MP+1 calls 3 BB, fold, CO calls 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, fold

Flop : (16.4 BB, 5 players) 5h Th Qs
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, MP+1 checks, CO checks, BTN bets 11.8 BB, fold, Hero calls 11.8 BB, fold, fold

Turn : (40 BB, 2 players) Kh
Hero checks, BTN bets 28.8 BB, Hero ???

BTN wins 38.4 BB

I probably should have 3bet pre to get heads up. I was thinking at the time that UTG+1 is pretty tight and opening from EP, so I could get into a bad spot by 3betting, but it just gets even worse since I let so many people in.
Can I fold TPTK on the flop? I hate this spot so much, being OOP and all. Turn brings me a flushdraw, but he happily bets 70% of pot. What are your thoughts about the action, and as played, what should I do on the turn?
 
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You have a good hand - you have to bet on the flop or all on the turn. Which hand do you want to play? What are you afraid to see? Seth or AA / KK? You will never escape them. But you will lose your money by throwing TPTK.
 
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Villain is playing 11/6 over 105 hands and is betting big on this flop , and betting almost 3/4 pot on turn. Players doing that with these stats usually have very strong hands in my experience, a set probably. I doubt this player is playing Q10 here. Maybe if you lead the turn you can see a cheap river. Check calling here is most likely a losing play.
 
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Villain is really tight and betting BIG on both flop and turn. Usually your one pair type hand is not good to continue here. I think it is a good fold.
 
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Easy fold, tight as Mahsa and 16c says, also 5 way even TPTK is meh when betting starts.
 
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villain was super tight it sounds and betting big on the flop and turn smells of AA/KK or a set and either way you are beat. fold and move on.
 
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Bet the flop, fold the turn. Poker is easy.

If your table has been loose, then a 3-bet pre is fine to ISO. You can make a small 3-bet, but calling is fine if you don't have aggressive squeezers.
 
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I agree with John.
I think which the best line to follow, would be bet flop and fold the turn.
 
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Bet the flop, fold the turn. Poker is easy.

If your table has been loose, then a 3-bet pre is fine to ISO. You can make a small 3-bet, but calling is fine if you don't have aggressive squeezers.

I guess this makes the most sense, keeping it as simple as possible. Thanks John A.
 
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3bet pre we dont do well mw with aqo

Lots of people on a wet board... k fills in straights and at best we are playing against someome with a lot of equity. But things always tough mw and our hand strength needs to be on average a lot stronger
 
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There are some tight players here but it's a ragged flop unless the original raiser has a premium or someone got lucky and hit a set then tptk should be good on this flop and I would bet it here to try and win it now and/or thin the field and to charge the gutshots and flush draws and take it from there.
As played you gave away the initiative and have no idea where you stand. You correctly called the flop but are totally in the dark on the turn and oop so folding turn seems best. Do you want to be totally guessing on the end as well?
And here's a tip. You can always trust the advice of John A.
 
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