First off, just a general
q about preflop raises:
Is it ever
OK to min-raise in EP? AK (though I guess more so w/ AKs even) is sort of a drawing hand -- one that could flop nut straight draws, nut/near-nut flush draws, and of course TPTKs. I was thinking it might be OK sometimes to make a small-ish raise EP, especially at a table of nits, w/ this kind of hand. Maybe I'm wrong though.
Alight, back to this hand....
Originally Posted by PattyR
why does that hand converter not show suits?
Wait, did the hand converter not work correctly? I used Leggo 4-colors & it shows up ok for me, but maybe not for everyone else? Hmm. Sorry 'bout that.
Originally Posted by JOEBOB69
If he already has the flush\st8 your roughly 16% to win.I see nothing your ahead of here that villain will slam this turn card against that many players.Your 20% against a set,$7.90 in the pot $3.43 for you to call.Is there anything this players is shoving the turn here that isn't set,st8,flush?Do you think your geting the right pot odds
OK, so I admit I'm not very good at figuring out equity (or using Pstove at this point) here's an attempt at the #'s:
I couldn't put the villain on a straight bc there's no way he sees the flop w/ 87 or 32. He could have a set obviously as he'd probably call a PFR w/ 66-44 and definitely w/ AA. But I also don't necessarily see him shoving his set into a 4 person multiway w/ such a dripping wet flop (...or do I?).
The A on the turn either made a set of aces which has me crushed. If it made a pair we're either chopping or I have his AQ, AJ, or maybe ATs beat, even if it includes one a spade. I don't see a nit seeing the flop w/ a weaker ace than that so I'm not too worried about something like A4 making two pair.
Which leaves the flush he might have made on the flop. Combos here I think include KQ, KJ, QJ, and KT spades.
So that's the range putting him on: four possible sets + the flush combos above. In PStove that comes out to ~48%, basically a coin flip. Am I way off here?
Originally Posted by Siao
Why are you value-betting when you have no made hand. Push more into the pot. There's no way you have the best hand here. At 5NL, and only a .10 raise, that flop screams someone hit. Not worth the chase even if you are 2.1/1 heads up.
I hear you ... I think. Btw, is "building the pot" always the same thing as value betting?