$5 NLHE Full Ring: Made full house on the river

$5 NL HE Full Ring: Made full house on the river

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 49/3/2.2

Playin full ring and villain has been loose/limpy/passive/folds 100% time to a CB. So i've taking advantage of this in pos and double barrling him, which has worked.
My AF: INF CB: 100
Delt AJo in the BB and decide for vaule to raise and hope a CB will take it down postflop.

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johnDoez666 ($4.67)
ukaliks ($11.24)
joeythecouch ($3.01)
Midnoghtblue ($2.20)
kramek ($2)
cipusa314 ($7.63)
Luiguito ($4.33)
Nor*Cal021 ($8.66)
11mj04 ($5.24)

johnDoez666 posts (SB) $0.02
ukaliks posts (BB) $0.05

Dealt to ukaliks Ad Js
fold, fold, fold, fold, fold,
Nor*Cal021 calls $0.05
fold,
johnDoez666 calls $0.03
ukaliks raises to $0.19
Nor*Cal021 calls $0.14
fold,
FLOP ($0.43) 9s Ac Jc
ukaliks bets $0.29
Nor*Cal021 calls $0.29
TURN ($1.01) 9s Ac Jc 3d
ukaliks bets $0.75
Nor*Cal021 calls $0.75
RIVER ($2.51) 9s Ac Jc 3d Ah
ukaliks ?

Would u check here hopin that he has the other A and mite decide that u've missed ur flush hopin he would stick in a big bet (his river AF is 57%). Or would u jus keep up aggression up since is NL5 and mite aswell extract as much vaule as we can since these noobs will make mistakes?

Bet.

Please use a hh converter, my eyes hurt - this one is quite good, and there are others: http://www.stoxpoker.com/hand_history_converter/

Def bet.

He's got something he likes, we can only hope it's JJ/99/AK/A9/A3, he isn't going to be induced into betting behind w worse, and you'll lose value if he checks behind.

But you may be able to trick him - the question is how. In this spot I want to look as bluffy as possible, which I do by overbetting the pot - usually around $2.75. You could also try simply shoving, which also looks bluffy but I think is less likely to be called, but if it's called frequently enough is more profitable obv than the $2.75 (and if he's holding an underfull house, it's not unlikely that he'll call).

What I wouldn't do is bet half pot or less - it looks too much like a value bet.

^^^This. I like the over betting and trying to intentionally look bluffy in this spot. You've been pounding on him for awhile and now that he probably has a hand he has been waiting to catch you.

bet bigger on both previous streets... shove the river... if his hand was good enough to call on both flop and turn his hand in his mind just improved...

Don't just bet, shove.

Since he was stickin around on the flop + turn i decided to bet big ($2.25) to look bluffy. Got paid off by villains call with A4o lol.

Yep, and you lost value because he would have called off his entire stack. Losing value in these spots really effects your WR. That board is so strong that he's either folding to almost any bet or calling. Maximize and shove in these spots.

Thanks WVH. Now u think about it I did miss out on max vaule by not shoving. But I rarley play this move UTG with a monster in cash games.

ukaliks said:

Thanks WVH. Now u think about it I did miss out on max vaule by not shoving. But I rarley play this move UTG with a monster in cash games.

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Well you should think about it from now on. There just aren't very many weak hands that call any bet on a board this strong so you might as well shove and hope he has trips or better so you can win his entire stack. Leaving your opponent with any chips in these situations is a real mistake. It's not like a player bad enough to limp/call with A4o is ever going to be able to fold trips.

WVHillbilly said:

Well you should think about it from now on. There just aren't very many weak hands that call any bet on a board this strong so you might as well shove and hope he has trips or better so you can win his entire stack. Leaving your opponent with any chips in these situations is a real mistake. It's not like a player bad enough to limp/call with A4o is ever going to be able to fold trips.

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This is what I am learning. It seems counterproductive as you think a smart player would see right through it. But many are not smart players...(or are having a bad day)

I gotta learn this as well.

Thanks WVH!

Man, this site is so much better than I thought....

You should bet

Bet

If he has the other A he will call, if he has KK he may call but not bet, if he has nothing he will likely fold.

He is unlikely to bluff this board.

BET BET BET and any time you think of checking to induce on a board like this, poke yourself in the eye just to remind yourself its a bad thing to do.

WVHillbilly said:

Well you should think about it from now on. There just aren't very many weak hands that call any bet on a board this strong so you might as well shove and hope he has trips or better so you can win his entire stack. Leaving your opponent with any chips in these situations is a real mistake. It's not like a player bad enough to limp/call with A4o is ever going to be able to fold trips.

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A hand I played tonight to illustrate that the big overbet shove is right on certain boards when you hold the nuts.

It's HU so the dynamic is a little different but you'll get the idea.

full tilt poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players - View hand 408522
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

Hero (BB): $129.60
BTN/SB: $99.50

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with T :diamond: J :diamond:
BTN/SB raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1

Flop: ($3.00) 9 :heart: Q :spade: 8 :diamond: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB checks

Turn: ($3.00) 6 :diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets $2, BTN/SB calls $2

River: ($7.00) 5 :spade: (2 players)
Hero requests TIME, Hero bets $126.10 all in, BTN/SB calls $96 all in

Final Pot: $199.00
Hero shows T :diamond: J :diamond: (a straight, Queen high)
BTN/SB mucks 8 :heart: 7 :club:
Hero wins $198.50
(Rake: $0.50)

Basically I get to the river here after flopping the world with very little in the pot, which sucks. I can't always count on my opponent raising with a 7 so I shove $96 into a $7 pot because I know he'll pay off with a 7. These huge bets don't work often but they don't have to because when they do they make lots of $$.