$5 NLHE Full Ring: $ : KK PF facing action from tight villain

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orangepeeleo

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$5 NL HE Full Ring: $ : KK PF facing action from tight villain

MP3's not a problem here of course but SB's stats are 11/11/0, and 0%3bet over only 56 hands. UTG+2's stats are 32/25/inf over same sample.

Full Tilt, $0.02/$0.05 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

UTG+1: $4.81 (96.2 bb)
UTG+2: $7.94 (158.8 bb)
MP1: $7.08 (141.6 bb)
MP2: $3.60 (72 bb)
MP3: $0.93 (18.6 bb)
CO: $2 (40 bb)
BTN: $4.94 (98.8 bb)
SB: $5.13 (102.6 bb)
Hero (BB): $5.41 (108.2 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with K K
UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to $0.10, 2 folds, MP3 raises to $0.35, 2 folds, SB raises to $0.90, Hero???

Whats the best line to take here?? My initial reactions were to raise but i wasn't sure how much, are we actively wanting to commit ourselves pf but still try and get some money in the pot? He could make this raise here with TT+ AQs+ i think, but our problem if we flat call is that an ace could come on the flop and we could lay down the best hand if he has raised with any premium pair, whereas if we raise here to say $2.50 then we're commited anyways and QQ etc couldn't fold us out if an ace came.

Finally, are we happy getting it in here if we do raise and get shoved on by the SB??

Thanks
 
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Raise as standard $2.70-3 if he pushes we are calling, if he turns up with AA its a cooler. We cant lay down or flat every time a 11/11/0, and 0%3bet shows up.
 
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A mini raise from UTG 2...this is more likely newbiness but dont rule out the monster

A standard raise from MP3...any respectable range

Weak SB raise...SB has good numbers so he should know even though he is playing 5NL that he should be raising at least 4X the previous bet when playing OOP. He raise 2.5X so either he is tight newbie or fielding callers with a monster.

The tricky part is that if you raise you are pretty much committed. I know this doesn't help but I am honestly stumped. Folding is not an option. Calling? Don't think so. Re-raise and commit looks like the way to go. But I agree this is a toughie.

I am also going to hijack this thread and pose the question IF YOU CALL THE SB RAISE IN THIS INSTANCE WOULD IT BE MORE BENEFICIAL TO HAVE THE FOLKS BEHIND YOU FOLD OR CALL? If they fold you have position but if they call there is odds and some more doubt thrown at the SB postflop.
 
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peel why would you not be happy getting KK in lol?

I just jam, makes it look weaker I think and multiple opponents could talk themselves into calling. if UTG+2 calls then others are getting an even better price.
 
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