$5 NLHE Full Ring: KK overpair on low, paired board

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888 Poker - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (MP+2): 133.6 BB
CO: 131.2 BB (VPIP: 42.55, PFR: 8.51, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 48)
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 17.27, PFR: 11.51, 3Bet Preflop: 3.96, Hands: 282)
SB: 129.8 BB (VPIP: 19.09, PFR: 10.91, 3Bet Preflop: 2.56, Hands: 110)
BB: 63.4 BB (VPIP: 63.64, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 55)
UTG: 119.2 BB (VPIP: 16.12, PFR: 8.06, 3Bet Preflop: 2.17, Hands: 276)
UTG+1: 48.4 BB (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 14.20, 3Bet Preflop: 2.17, Hands: 178)
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 4.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
MP+1: 107 BB (VPIP: 12.80, PFR: 10.40, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 127)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K:spade: K:diamond:

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (9.4 BB, 3 players) 6:spade: 6:club: 9:diamond:
BB checks, Hero bets 6 BB, fold, BB calls 6 BB

Turn: (21.4 BB, 2 players) 2:heart:
BB checks, Hero bets 12.6 BB, BB raises to 25.2 BB, Hero calls 12.6 BB

River: (71.8 BB, 2 players) J:spade:
BB bets 1 BB, Hero raises to 40.8 BB, BB calls 28.2 BB and is all-in

Should I fold on the turn? Passive player c/r should've slowed me down? If I was to replay I'd probably be calling the 1BB on the river but it just seemed so odd for him to c/r then give up.
 
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you all played right!in this situation no fold on the turn !!! but i not see the end of the hand ... what hand BB
 
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If villain is as passive as you say he is, then yes, you should probably fold to the turn check/raise as he's not doing this without a 6, 99 or 22.

If he is the least bit aggro, he might be doing this with any other pocket pair to get you to fold an overpair. In that case you can't fold, and you played it correctly.

What's his AFq? It's a deciding factor, imo.


but i not see the end of the hand ... what hand BB
Results don't matter - it's the decision that counts.
Giving away the result in the OP will skew a lot of the advice.


The fact that OP says he would just call the river minbet in this situation already indicates villain had a 6, 99 or 22. :p
 
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Turn raises in these spots are so strong I think we can fold KK. IDK why we are raising river, just call and be happy he only bet 1bb.
 
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If villain is as passive as you say he is, then yes, you should probably fold to the turn check/raise as he's not doing this without a 6, 99 or 22.

If he is the least bit aggro, he might be doing this with any other pocket pair to get you to fold an overpair. In that case you can't fold, and you played it correctly.

What's his AFq? It's a deciding factor, imo.


Results don't matter - it's the decision that counts.
Giving away the result in the OP will skew a lot of the advice.


The fact that OP says he would just call the river minbet in this situation already indicates villain had a 6, 99 or 22. :p

Haha I did consider posting the results for the fact that my comments basically gave it away.
 
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Shove or fold the turn. Not much sense in just calling there. You're either deducing you're ahead, and he'll stack off w/ worse or not. He's a short stacked fish, so it's probably ok to just get it in. If he was ubber passive, then I'd consider a turn fold, but w/ a small sample I wouldn't rely on that info yet.
 
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Get busy on the turn

Shove or fold the turn. Not much sense in just calling there. You're either deducing you're ahead, and he'll stack off w/ worse or not. He's a short stacked fish, so it's probably ok to just get it in. If he was ubber passive, then I'd consider a turn fold, but w/ a small sample I wouldn't rely on that info yet.

PFR and 3bet of ZERO in 55 hands? That is the very definition of "ubber passive." And that check raise on the turn is way out of character. I agree the turn is the place to shove or fold. Do you think the turn card will change anything? There aren't any flush or straight draws. Are you hoping for a 6 or a king?

As played, the min bet on the river looks like he wants to just turn the cards over and see who won. Does he have a 9? Is he afraid you have a better 6? I'd just call the river
 
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