$5 NLHE Full Ring: Can I ever fold my straight here?

Both villains have around 33/7 . MP2 would call here with anything like TP/2P so I expect to have him beat, UTG made a very weird allin move tho. should I fold here?

pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (7 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

MP1 ($2.09)
MP2 ($2.24)
CO ($2.39)
Button ($8.05)
SB ($2.71)
Hero (BB) ($5.41)
UTG ($17.07)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5 , K
UTG calls $0.05, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.05, 3 folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.17) J , 6 , 8 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP2 checks

Turn: ($0.17) 7 (3 players)
Hero bets $0.10, UTG raises to $0.40, MP2 calls $0.40, Hero calls $0.30

River: ($1.37) 4 (3 players)
Hero bets $1, UTG raises to $16.62 (All-In), MP2 calls $1.79 (All-In), heroo???

Obv T9 is the worry but I think he does this with 5x, sets and 2 pair hands as well, making calling +EV.

Check the turn, semi-bluffing is almost pointless here imo, given that neither of our SD outs are that good.

I think this is close but a fold, I doubt he has a 5 very often at all given his turn raise, which kind of narrows his hand to 77, 78, 76 or T9. Probably doesnt ship river with 2 pair even tho hes a fish and there are way more combos of T9 than likely sets.

This is a fold. The turn should have also been a fold because you're drawing to 4 outs to the 2nd best hand. Villain is taking this line with sets/2pr/busted flush approx 1% of the time. You're calling to chop the pot at best and the rest of the time he has T9 or 95. Also I would bet smaller on the river to get calls from weaker hands that are scared of the board.

youregoodmate said:

Check the turn, semi-bluffing is almost pointless here imo, given that neither of our SD outs are that good.

I think this is close but a fold, I doubt he has a 5 very often at all given his turn raise, which kind of narrows his hand to 77, 78, 76 or T9. Probably doesnt ship river with 2 pair even tho hes a fish and there are way more combos of T9 than likely sets.

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Imo betting the turn is fine as you have an overcard + a straight draw, chances are the straight draw is good. But once you get raised on the turn it's a fold I think unless they are both fish as you won't get payed off and can lose alot of money to a higher straight.
Also I fold river. Looks like he has 9/10 here alot with his turn raise and his just moving all in on river as he thinks u cant fold a 5.

What about raising preflop to eliminate one of them? or does the 33-7 statistic mean they wouldn't fold?

I think a case can be made for either checking the turn, or betting small and folding to a raise.
on the river, I like checking and calling a small bet , not the all in.

I also think it's either 10 9, or 95.

hotace256 said:

What about raising preflop to eliminate one of them? or does the 33-7 statistic mean they wouldn't fold?

I think a case can be made for either checking the turn, or betting small and folding to a raise.
on the river, I like checking and calling a small bet , not the all in.

I also think it's either 10 9, or 95.

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We have K5o. If youre doing this for value then you are mad, if youre doing this as a bluff then you will likely get two callers and be playing a pot oop with a shit hand.

Yoshimiii said:

Imo betting the turn is fine as you have an overcard + a straight draw, chances are the straight draw is good. But once you get raised on the turn it's a fold I think unless they are both fish as you won't get payed off and can lose alot of money to a higher straight.
Also I fold river. Looks like he has 9/10 here alot with his turn raise and his just moving all in on river as he thinks u cant fold a 5.

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We're bettin 10c, we arent ever going to get the FE we need to make it worth it, plus when we make our straight we dont ever have the nut straight. Just not worth betting at into to two people, check it round.

AlwaysPlanAhe said:

This is a fold. The turn should have also been a fold because you're drawing to 4 outs to the 2nd best hand. Villain is taking this line with sets/2pr/busted flush approx 1% of the time. You're calling to chop the pot at best and the rest of the time he has T9 or 95. Also I would bet smaller on the river to get calls from weaker hands that are scared of the board.

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Ditto.

The turn is horrendously spewy. Betting in the first place is a pretty thin bluff, but calling a raise is just hemorrhaging money.

Flush draw on board, bottom end of the straight draw, one card draw, and zero implied odds when we hit. Fold fold fold.

youregoodmate said:

We have K5o. If youre doing this for value then you are mad, if youre doing this as a bluff then you will likely get two callers and be playing a pot oop with a shit hand.

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There is nothing wrong to mixing up your game a little. I would be doing that for the initiative. They are both kind of loose players who put money in the pot too often preflop, so chances are the flop will miss them. There is a way to make this work even oop.
Anyway, not saying it's the absolute right thing to do, just sometimes, given the right situation, right read.

hotace256 said:

There is nothing wrong to mixing up your game a little. I would be doing that for the initiative. They are both kind of loose players who put money in the pot too often preflop, so chances are the flop will miss them. There is a way to make this work even oop.
Anyway, not saying it's the absolute right thing to do, just sometimes, given the right situation, right read.

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LOL hypocritcal much? K5o is a horrible raise here pre. We get called nearly all the time and rarely see flops that we love. They probably have better flopping hands than we have so that nullifies your other point.

Also we are playing 5nl we do not ever need to 'mix it up'. Play simple ABC poker and win.

youregoodmate said:

LOL hypocritcal much? K5o is a horrible raise here pre. We get called nearly all the time and rarely see flops that we love. They probably have better flopping hands than we have so that nullifies your other point.

Also we are playing 5nl we do not ever need to 'mix it up'. Play simple ABC poker and win.

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Tru dat.

This is actually sort of a tough spot against a 33/7. I guess it depends on your reads while playing with them, but if they aren't the type of donk to ship this board with TPWK then this is a pretty clear fold. Also the villain started betting when 9T hit, so it isn't too implausible that that is precisely what he holds.

check the turn, don't bet into 2 players.