$5 NLHE Full Ring: Flopped a FH - slowplayed

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I generally never check the flop if I have anything above Top Pair mainly because I win less, I have less information and can give free cards. However in this situation as I had the Nuts and chances they had much were slim I checked. Ok to slowplay here?

Everest, $0.03/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 10 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BB: $2.99 (59.8 bb)
Hero (UTG): $6.76 (135.2 bb)
UTG+1: $2.45 (49 bb)
UTG+2: $1.75 (35 bb)
MP1: $4.87 (97.4 bb)
MP2: $4.79 (95.8 bb)
MP3: $10.55 (211 bb)
CO: $1.55 (31 bb)
BTN: $7.84 (156.8 bb)
SB: $7.18 (143.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Ah Jd
Hero raises to $0.18, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.18, 3 folds, CO calls $0.18, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.62) Ad As Jh (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, CO checks

Turn: ($0.62) 3s (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 bets $0.17, CO calls $0.17, Hero raises to $0.61, UTG+2 calls $0.44, CO raises to $1.37, Hero raises to $5.34, UTG+2 folds

River: ($3.97) 5s (2 players)
 
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Yes check the flop is good imo; lets villain(s) fire w/ air or other second best, as played i like it. But you could prob. bet the turn, but it depends on the villains fold to turn cbet, otherwise WP.
 
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Because they are both short looks fine. Although I think you need to bet turn, then bet river, obviously getting it in if raised anywhere.
 
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I'd fold AJ utg pre-flop full ring.

As played check followed by c/r against two people pretty much showed the strength of your hand and I really don't think this line is optimal at all. I much prefer bet flop as you normally would, these are 5NL players, you really don't need to take ultra creative lines against them.
 
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bet flop because it looks weaker than check raising
 
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I'd fold AJ utg pre-flop full ring.

The table often folded all the way round to the blinds. From MP I raised several times and won the blinds so I was slightly widening my opening range while waiting to tighten up if I got more callers/3bets.

bet flop because it looks weaker than check raising

How much would you have bet? 3/4pot?

My reasoning was if they miss the flop they are folding to any bet. Therefore check and give them a card, hoping for a scare card which may induce one to bluff or even smack their range. Obviously I didn't get my scare card so I thought a bet would fail to hide my strength but looking back my check-raise doesn't hide my strength at all.

I still believe checking the flop gives me the biggest potential equity. However I would bet the turn. How much would you bet? 1/2 if there is no scare card or pot if there is?
 
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flop id probably bet 1/2 pot
 
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check flop followed by baluga line does not give you the greatest equity, your range at this point is basically full houses. I'd probably bet about 61% of the pot on the flop. The I have a super strong hand therefore I check line is just fishy.
 
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Ok. In future I'll go with a 1/2 pot sized bet. (where have you got 61% from Blue? That seems awfully precise.)

All of your feedback is greatly appreciated guys, thanks.
 
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I just did a few calculations and that came out as the best sizing.
 
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Would you mind showing me your calculations and reasoning if you get chance Blue?
 
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