re: Poker & $5 NLHE Full Ring: $ : Facing all in bet with Ace high board with KK
Originally Posted by takethepain
The problem with not c-betting the flop IMO, is that I am essentially saying, here, take this pot, it is yours. I can easily rep an Ace against a QQ or JJ type hand. Once he called that bet I was done with the hand, until his river bet made me very suspicious. By not betting the turn, I was saying what I would have if I checked the flop, I am scared of that ace, bet and it is yours.
With that in mind, why would he over-bet the pot on the river? If he knew I was scared of that ace, why bet so big? Certainly not for value. The only way that bet made sense to me was that he wanted me to fold, and if he wanted me to fold, I was surely ahead vs what he could have.
I would had folded to a smaller bet on the river for sure.
There are several logical problems with your post.
1. "I can easily rep an Ace against a QQ or JJ type hand." - Why would you want to rep an Ace? You beat QQ/JJ already. Do you want them to fold without putting any more $$ in the pot? Read this: http://www.cardschat.com/f49/wa-wb-concept-76525/?highlight=WA%2FWB
2. "The problem with not c-betting the flop IMO, is that I am essentially saying, here, take this pot, it is yours." - No, because you have position and can call a turn bet and reeval on the river. Position = Power. Use it.
3. "If he knew I was scared of that ace, why bet so big?" - Because he thought an overbet would be suspicious and you would call with less than TP? Because he failed to bet the turn with a big hand to try to get your whole stack and saw this as his last chance? Because he has TP and thinks you call overbets too lightly (you do btw). If you're routinely using this logic about calling big bets with less than big hands (relative to the board) you're going to get owned, A LOT.
Like I said when I posted originally you're not going to be good >37% of the time here and that means calling is a losing play. Just because it worked out this time (as I suspected when I read your OP) does NOT mean calling the river was right.