$5 NLHE Full Ring: Facing 50% Pot Bet with 8-to-Straight Board

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Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 16/11/2

Villain raises from HJ. Hero 3-bet from Cutoff. Villain calls.
Villain checks flop. Hero C-Bets. Villain calls.Villain checks turn. Hero Checks turn.
Villain makes 50% pot bet on a river, and there are 8 potential cards to a straight.
Hero has top-top.
Should Hero call, raise, or fold?

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Gohaku94

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Hello,
When deciding to raise preflop i'd go for a bigger size, like 10-11x.
Utg+1 is pretty schort, i wouldn't 3bet short people with that type of hands, AT is a bluff 3-bet so not great vs short people on cash games.
When the 3bet is not working vs short people i try to be as creative as posible.. id check or shove(pot would be a Little bigger with a 11bb ore not 8 and stacks shallower).
So.. look at their stacks before 3-betting pre, i might just fold AT there vs most 5nl nitty people
 
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Once you check the turn, then you need to call most rivers. Getting 3:1 it's a standard, marginal +EV call w/ TPTK. It makes it maybe break even or slightly -EV against said opponent, but it depends on the hand sample.
 
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Gohaku94 said:
Hello,
When deciding to raise preflop i'd go for a bigger size, like 10-11x.
Utg+1 is pretty schort, i wouldn't 3bet short people with that type of hands, AT is a bluff 3-bet so not great vs short people on cash games.
When the 3bet is not working vs short people i try to be as creative as posible.. id check or shove(pot would be a Little bigger with a 11bb ore not 8 and stacks shallower).
So.. look at their stacks before 3-betting pre, i might just fold AT there vs most 5nl nitty people
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10-11x 3-bet? so pretty much test the villain to put his chips all in?
 
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Gohaku94 said:
Hello,
When deciding to raise preflop i'd go for a bigger size, like 10-11x.
Utg+1 is pretty schort, i wouldn't 3bet short people with that type of hands, AT is a bluff 3-bet so not great vs short people on cash games.
When the 3bet is not working vs short people i try to be as creative as posible.. id check or shove(pot would be a Little bigger with a 11bb ore not 8 and stacks shallower).
So.. look at their stacks before 3-betting pre, i might just fold AT there vs most 5nl nitty people
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Gohaku94 said:
No.. sorry, i meant 10-11bb, so like 3.5-4x.
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lol - at first i thought you meant like 10-11x his raise. haha which would put him to the test for all of his chips. thanks for clarifying
 
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Don't like a call here unless we know he overplays hands and/or is capable of bluffing.
 
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hm i just do not understand play from villain he is short and he call 75% cbet on flop with only gutshot straight with 2 diamonds and he was 3bet preflop wtf
 
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doom said:
hm i just do not understand play from villain he is short and he call 75% cbet on flop with only gutshot straight with 2 diamonds and he was 3bet preflop wtf
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He was not 3-better. Hero was. Villain open raised (2-bet)
 
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3betfish said:
With no info on villain, standard fold then?
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At these stakes ($5NL), I say yes. Just don't think he shows a bluff or K10/Q10 nearly often enough to be profitable.
 
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