$5 NLHE Full Ring: AQs in BB vs UTG open (min raise) from fish

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Another day at the office with the fish (he is a fish right?). Min raise opened UTG and there was a caller so 3b to thin the field. Missed the flop completely but against a passive fish who surprisingly folds only 50% to flop cbets. Barreled only ~1/3 bc I figured he will fold if he wants to regardless of my bet plus we were OOP with air and I did not want a disaster on the turn when we shut down. Did not continue turn bc I didn't think I could reasonably represent anything here plus fishes never play like that anyway. River gave us showdown value but now we get 1/2 potted by the fish. So what's the play here? Snap call or fold??

888 Poker - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

UTG: 114.2 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 2.86, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 35)
UTG+1: 100 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 4.00, Hands: 61)
MP: 53.4 BB (VPIP: 53.66, PFR: 4.88, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 43)
CO: 167.8 BB (VPIP: 20.45, PFR: 13.64, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 44)
BTN: 41.2 BB (VPIP: 13.33, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 45)
SB: 102.6 BB (VPIP: 17.02, PFR: 12.77, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 47)
Hero (BB): 101.4 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has As Qs
UTG raises to 2 BB, fold, MP calls 2 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 8.4 BB, UTG calls 6.4 BB, fold

Flop : (19.2 BB, 2 players) 9h Td 6c
Hero bets 7.6 BB, UTG calls 7.6 BB

Turn : (34.4 BB, 2 players) 7s
Hero checks, UTG checks

River : (34.4 BB, 2 players) Qc
Hero checks, UTG bets 17.2 BB, Hero calls 17.2 BB
 
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Just call preflop. He is a fish, but he raises very few hands preflop, and here he open-raises UTG. AQ is not exactly a favourite then.

As played, postflop is fine.
 
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'another day at the office with the fish' lol shut the **** up aahah beg

I get that you're trying to spew something here but I don't really understand what you are trying to say. Anyhow if you have nothing useful to add I suggest you stop with your trolling!

And yea I may have been a bit liberal with that statement but are you saying he's not a fish in your books?
 
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I'm not sure with villain complete fish, but i think he probably knows something more than just combinations if he did c/r, anyway postflop snap call, mb got some weak KQ or even any Qx.
 
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I'm not sure with villain complete fish, but i think he probably knows something more than just combinations if he did c/r, anyway postflop snap call, mb got some weak KQ or even any Qx.

Thanks! Also villain bet half pot on river after we checked as we were OOP.

On the point of complete fishes I see a lot of people that initially seem to be playing very loose but turn out to be playing LAG-gy ... Do you all think LAG is a common style at 5NL? I know there weren't many at 2NL.
 
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I agree with all about flatting pre. However just what my thoughts were in the hand for 3betting after observing the table for a short while:

UTG was a player consistently limping regardless of position and was getting raised so he started to min raise instead with his limp raise as a counter. He has also been found 3betting with JTs as per my notes. And I thought 3betting here was a good squeeze opportunity & should have some fold equity considering their F3B% are high (Plus as discussed on other posts I was trying to cut back my calling range and working more on 3bet or fold to counter the gap in my VP & PF). Lastly flatting pre would have had me playing the hand OOP against 2 loose opponents who would be playing any 2 cards.

My goal was to 1) Get a squeeze fold pre 2) Value bet the hand if connect 3) Take shot at flop if missed and give up hand afterwards. This is why I feel I deviated from the plan on the river with a coordinated board where any 8 makes a str.

V even though passive has inf aggression on river and a <50% showdown win (sample is very small for river decision though in hind sight) . This plus how I gave up the turn could easily entice a river barrel and felt a call/fold would have been close.
 
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