$5 NLHE Full Ring: AQo UTG, how would you play this?

acky100

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Im never sure how to play AQ when i get a bit of action back at me, did i make the correct fold? only had 50 hands on villain being a 35/12 thought he was playing loose;


pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

CO ($7.89)
Button ($14.45)
SB ($5.49)
BB ($4.81)
Hero (UTG) ($5.07)
UTG+1 ($4.45)
MP1 ($4.89)
MP2 ($10)
MP3 ($5)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A
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, Q
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Hero bets $0.20, 6 folds, SB calls $0.18, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.45) 2
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, J
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, A
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(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.30, SB raises to $0.60, Hero calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.65) 7
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(2 players)
SB bets $1.25, Hero folds

Total pot: $1.65

Results:
SB didn't show
Outcome: $1.65 returned to SB
 
c9h13no3

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Well, since no one wants this one, I'll take it.

In theory, we should fold the flop... because:

1) Min-raises are typically strong hands. The distribution gathered from that data shows that min-raises are typically 35% top pair or worse, and 65% are better than top pair.

2) A 35/12 split typically means villain is passive, and won't be check/raising here with a ton of bluffs/weak hands.

3) We have a blocker against combo draws.

However, in practice, I'm not sure I have the will-power to fold flop. And once I make it to the turn, I probably call there as well now that we've hit a draw. Villain is likely bad, and probably willing to pay us off with a set/AJ if we hit the river.
 
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Im never sure how to play AQ when i get a bit of action back at me, did i make the correct fold? only had 50 hands on villain being a 35/12 thought he was playing loose;


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

CO ($7.89)
Button ($14.45)
SB ($5.49)
BB ($4.81)
Hero (UTG) ($5.07)
UTG+1 ($4.45)
MP1 ($4.89)
MP2 ($10)
MP3 ($5)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A
club.gif
, Q
spade.gif

Hero bets $0.20, 6 folds, SB calls $0.18, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.45) 2
club.gif
, J
spade.gif
, A
spade.gif
(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.30, SB raises to $0.60, Hero calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.65) 7
spade.gif
(2 players)
SB bets $1.25, Hero folds

Total pot: $1.65

Results:
SB didn't show
Outcome: $1.65 returned to SB

What was your plan once you called the flop raise? If you thought you were behind did you just call planning to fold the turn unless a queen or another ace came? In which case I'd just fold the flop - even if you do hit another Ace or a Queen you could still be in big trouble because as C9 says these passive players rarely raise without the goods.
 
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Thanks for getting back to me guys, yeah what you say makes lots of sense i dont really know why i called the min re raise i had the idea in my head that min raises were weak but yeah, i think i called the raise on the flop just because i thought it was weak and he was trying to make me fold right there, i guess i need to stop doing this as as soon as i check the turn im in the same situation again and i seem even weaker to villain. Right so min raises are usually stronger moves from loose passives like him - ill take this on board thanks for getting back to me this one i think i lose quite a bit by sticking around in situations like this too often
 
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Well, since no one wants this one, I'll take it.

In theory, we should fold the flop... because:

1) Min-raises are typically strong hands. The distribution gathered from that data shows that min-raises are typically 35% top pair or worse, and 65% are better than top pair.

2) A 35/12 split typically means villain is passive, and won't be check/raising here with a ton of bluffs/weak hands.

3) We have a blocker against combo draws.

However, in practice, I'm not sure I have the will-power to fold flop. And once I make it to the turn, I probably call there as well now that we've hit a draw. Villain is likely bad, and probably willing to pay us off with a set/AJ if we hit the river.


Thanks for the link to this article on 2+2 helped a lot!
 
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How would I play this? I wouldn't lol. In that posisiton, that is an A rag hand. When you play it from this position in a full-ring game, you are only hoping to flop trips, two pair or a straight and even if that happens you will most likely get little to no value with your raises.
 
LizaBuv

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Tough Spot

I think UTG, maybe raise a little less. Something like 12c.

Probably check raised the flop with his flush draw with the intention of taking a free card on the turn if needed. Very tough but probably neccessary fold.
 
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Ah never thought about this, whats everyones ideas on raising less from early positions? and is folding AQ utg not really really nitty? not that i have a problem with that style as i am pretty nitty, does anyone else fold hands like this UTG quite happily? I do fold AJ utg, but for some reason ive always played AQ
 
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1) If anything, you should be raising more UTG, not less. Lisabuv has no clue what he's talking about, as usual.

2) AQ UTG is a pretty standard open for all but the most nitty players, especially at 5NL where your opponents are going to play very poorly against you.
 
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1) If anything, you should be raising more UTG, not less. Lisabuv has no clue what he's talking about, as usual.

2) AQ UTG is a pretty standard open for all but the most nitty players, especially at 5NL where your opponents are going to play very poorly against you.

Why pray tell would you want to open for a big raise in EP and then decrease it as your position improves. Would love to hear your rationale for this one.

Regarding the AQ, I think it is usually a good one to play UTG. AJ and KQ don't usually need to be played however.
 
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To c9

c9, Which part of my rationale would you disagree with regarding raising smaller in EP and more in later positons.
- Risking fewer chips when OOP
- Pressure the blinds and make it harder for them to 3 bet you
- Playing with more money in the pot when in position
 
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I keep my raises the same size from all positions but if i were to increase my raise size the later i get in position would be because:

People are more likely to call a raise in position rather than OOP so by raising more we get more value out of our hand.

My raises would be less when I'm in position because people don't want to play OOP often so raising less makes it easier for them to come along.
 
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