$5 NLHE Full Ring: AKs in the BB. Think I got this all wrong. Thoughts?

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$5 NL HE Full Ring: AKs in the BB. Think I got this all wrong. Thoughts?

No real info on villains. Had not been sat down long (doubled up early, hence the big stack).

Ps. This is my first post in the hand history section. I've tried to follow the Cardschat guidelines - let me know if there's anything I could do better re: posting.

Stacks:
BB with $11.71
UTG with $8.71
UTG+1 with $10.18
MP1 with $1.93
MP2 with $5.11
CO with $3.50
BTN with $4.30
SB with $5.00



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Blinds: $0.00/$0.00
Site: full tilt poker
Dealt to BB:K♣ A♣
Sklansky group 1
Preflop:
UTG raises to $0.13
3 players fold.
BTN calls [$0.13]
1 players fold.
Hero calls [$0.08]
Total folds this street: 4
Potsize: $0.41
Flop:
9♠ Q♣ J♣
Hero checks
UTG bets [$0.25]
1 players fold.
Hero raises to $0.70
UTG raises to $1.80
Hero calls [$1.10]
Total folds this street: 1
Potsize: $4.01
Turn:
Q♦
Hero checks
UTG bets [$2]
Hero calls [$2]
Potsize: $8.01
River:
7♦
Hero checks
UTG checks

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Juniorsdaddy

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I like your play up until the turn. On the flop, you are a favorite over practically any hand. When the turn pairs the board, your hand pretty much dried up. The villain's turn bet reeks of a value bet, so I am putting villain on a queen or better. I would fold at this point.
 
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I think the flop played fine, I might reraise though as you've got a lot of equity here. I don't think calling the turn is good idea as now hitting an A or K is almost certainly behind.
Why flat call preflop?
 
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3bet preflop and I don't like the turn call after the Q pairs.

Also please don't use the CC hand converter in future HH posts.

www.handconverter.com works SO much better.
 
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Like the others have said, 3bet pre-flop, this will significantly improve your equity in the hand.

IF you don't 3bet pre-flop, what are you going to do post-flop if you hit or miss? Your fold equity is usually pretty low if you've missed, OOP, having just called pre-flop. Playing fit or fold is bad because you will miss most of the time, so we want to avoid this. Also, when you do hit, you're usually going to win a much smaller pot than if you had 3bet pre-flop because the pot size would be bigger, so bets are bigger, plus you wont have to essentially turn your cards up by the time you get stacks in - which you would have to do after calling pre-flop.

If you 3bet, you have equity pre-flop because most of the time you're taking the pot down right then and there (which isn't really a good thing with a premium hand, but being OOP destroys your ability to gain value post-flop so we have to remember AKs OOP is really, really diferent to AKs in position).
When you do see a flop, you're still getting equity vs most A's and K's, which will be more than if the pot was smaller when the flop was dealt.
Plus, when you miss, provided that you bet flop and turn with a reasonable frequency (dependent on how often your opponent will float your flop bet), you've got a ton of fold equity against smaller pairs.


Sorry if I'm just stating the obvious, but I'm guessing that to make the pre-flop call you have to just not know some or all of this.
 
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Thanks for the input guys. I'm not sure why I didn't 3bet preflop - I think I normally would in position but am always a bit cautious oop. I can see the turn call was pretty horrible. My snap decision was he had a queen but I thought calling $2 into a $4 pot was justifiable because the size of his stack gave me the implied odds. I can see now that even if the club had come on the river the betting would have dried up so pretty stupid call. It's making these decisions quickly that I need to improve in my cash game.

O and btw: he had A 10. Which was unexpected...
 
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Soul read obviously :p
 
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And now I look again - his stack wasn't actually big enough to justify the implied odds. So don't listen to me, I dunno what I'm taliking about... Hehe
 
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i would have 3 bet preflop, on the flop after he reraised me i would have shoved.

depending on the villains stats (if you have a HUD), maybe he was on a draw, flush draw, straigth draw, anyways i would have pushed on the flop.
 
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3 bet preflop, thats where it all went wrong.

If he calls shove that flop.

I think the important thing is to ask why did you not 3bet PF?

That is a situation where you should 3bet PF, what were you thinking or why is it that you didnt think that was a spot to 3bet? That might lead to some insites on how you view PF play and help you to improve
 
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3 bet preflop, thats where it all went wrong.

If he calls shove that flop.

I think the important thing is to ask why did you not 3bet PF?

That is a situation where you should 3bet PF, what were you thinking or why is it that you didnt think that was a spot to 3bet? That might lead to some insites on how you view PF play and help you to improve


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