$5 NLHE Full Ring: AK in the CO 190bb deep

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$5 NL HE Full Ring: AK in the CO 190bb deep

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 13/10/1

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party poker, $0.02/$0.05 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

MP3: $11.45 (229 bb)
Hero (CO): $9.50 (190 bb)
BTN: $9.55 (191 bb)
SB: $12.08 (241.6 bb)
BB: $6.06 (121.2 bb)
UTG+2: $6.22 (124.4 bb)
MP1: $4.86 (97.2 bb)
MP2: $6.22 (124.4 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is CO with A
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K
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3 folds, MP3 raises to $0.15, Hero calls $0.15, BTN calls $0.15, SB raises to $0.95, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.80, BTN folds

Flop: ($2.25) 9
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J
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K
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(2 players)
SB bets $1.10, Hero raises to $3, SB calls $1.90

Turn: ($8.25) J
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SB checks, Hero bets $5.55 and is all-in

MP1 - 6.6/5/7.5 150 hands SB - 13/10/1 through 30 hands

Thoughts on the whole hand please. The call/call on the flop I am looking at it seems ugly, I flat called MP1's raise who because I didn't want to 3-bet then fold if he reraised me and I had position on him. When the SB raised, I have thought is was just a move, folding seemed weak but I didn't want to ship it preflop. THe large flop bet was to protect again the flush draw that I am always paranoid about at this level as there are so many chasers and by the turn the pot was huge and I wasn't folding so I shipped it. Also I have next to no experience playing this deep 190bb.
 
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I don't find really anything wrong with your play. As I read the hand I also have SB on a move with a small to mid pair or maybe even AK. SB doesn't want to see a flop. I never allow myself to put an opponent on AA or KK preflop when I hold AK. SB is also OOP so calling the raise is fine IMO.

The flop is decent for you, not optimal, but definitely not bad. SB shows way too much strength preflop that he is pretty much obligated to make a continuation bet postflop. And his bet is relatively weak...so you raise which I think is fine, but the flop is too wet for villain to narrow you down to AK. Even if villain has QQ your range is too wide for SB to lay down when you raise. He potentially puts you on a draw.

The check on the turn shows weakness and your all-in push looks like a semi-bluff. Unless villain just happens to raise huge pflop and then hits a perfect flop, villain is put to a tough decision.

So overall, I just really can't fault you for how you played the hand.
 
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one thing that catches my eye is that villain doesn't seem to limp too much, even though it's only a 30 hand sample.
in other words he most likely has an implied odds hand (suited connectors, small PP) or a monster which he's slowplaying imo.
if you had raised (which is a far superior play after someone limps and you have AK) you would have been able to define his hand range better, but it looks like you played it alright as is.
 
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No one limped who is still in the hand on flop.
MP raised, Hero flat, SB 3bet, MP folds, Hero flats.

I don't really like the shove but I don't know what else to do.
I too have next to none experience playing deep.

He could have a weaker king but then again one of the most likely kings flopped 2 pair and turned a boat.
I guess chasing is a possibility but I don't really see that if his stats are correct.

Also don't give people too much credit for making a play at this limit. If they act strong, 90% of the time, they are imo.
 
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PF: I once had it hammered into my head to 3-bet AK almost always. Sure, it's nice to flop an A or K. But I think they say that AK's strength is in its fold equity. In your spot here, you also want to isolate the 1st raiser and keep your position post-flop. If he re-raises you, fine. But at least you have him HU. As played, you still have position. But the villain SB now has the initiative by 3-betting.

FLOP: Jeez, I dunno. You say he could be making a move, but what if he isn't? If you would have 3-bet the flop and he flatted you, I think you'd have a better read here.

- If you think he doesn't have you beat or he's drawing, I'd re-raise enough to only give him around 2-1 pot odds. Since he has already enlarged the pot, the minimum I'd go is $5. 5 + 3.35 = 8.35 ; 5 - 1.10 = 3.90 to go. 8.35/3.90 = 2.14-1 pot odds for him. But now that only leaves you about $3+ behind. So now, I'd consider shoving that flop. The only hands that beat you are AA and sets (maybe KJ). If he is drawing, gotta make him pay.

- But if you aren't really sure, the stab you took at the flop was OK. Or I wouldn't mind flatting to keep the pot small and more of your stack to use next street. However...

TURN: If you think the J helped him, you are dead. Check behind. But if you think he is still drawing, your shove is all you can do.
 
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I dont have any exp really of playing this deep but imo

PF you have to 3bet, i would have bumped it up to about 65c, i dont think AK is a great hand post-flop so your letting the blinds get a chance to come along with all sorts by flatting.

On the flop I would have done exactly the same, but now i think about it, it gives u problems on the turn b/c by doing that your building a big pot with TPTK which is a complete schoolboy error in cash, I don't think he's drawing fwiw 13/10 is where someone has half a brain at 5nl, i wouldnt have liked the call!

On the turn I'm split between checking behind or pushing, the pots big enough to push into and the check COULD be weakness, but then again J's are in his range for sure, hmmmm tough one, will be interested to see the results
 
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Just plugged it into pokerstove, against his 10% raising range your still 60% equity on the turn.
 
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