$5 NLHE Full Ring: Aces OOP to lowboard

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$5 NL HE Full Ring: Aces OOP to lowboard

The villain just arrived at the table, it is his first hand. This table has been playing particularly tight, and as of late almost all my raises have gotten folded to (including my KK, QQ and JJ, to my frustration). In any case, I'm in MP and bring my rockets in for a raise. The player who just arrives snapcalls, which tells me he's either got a very strong hand, or he's setting up for a bluff. To my delight, the flop comes 967, giving me a very strong overpair. I bring it in for a cbet, and he makes a min-reraise. I honestly can't put him on anything but a bluff, possibly top pair here, or perhaps a semibluff with a straight draw, so I'm pretty decided on a reraise to figure out where I'm at. How much would you suggest so that I: a) figure out where he's at in the hand, and b) push him off of his draw. I have found that at $5NL, people are pretty willing to chase draws, so I want to make sure he doesn't get to see it. Any suggestions?


Stacks:
* VManFunk with $4.34
* BTN with $4.98
* SB with $1.22
* BB with $5.00
* UTG with $3.78
* UTG+1 with $4.81
* MP1 with $0.92
* MP2 with $12.88
* MP3 with $1.83

Blinds: $0.00/$0.00
Site: full tilt poker
* * Dealt to MP2:A♦ A♣
* * Sklansky group 1
Preflop:
* * UTG calls [$0.05]
* * 2 players fold.
Hero raises to $0.20
* * 1 players fold.
* * vmanfunk calls [$0.15]
* * 4 players folded.
* * Total folds this street: 7
* * Potsize: $0.47
Flop: 9♦ 6♥ 7♠ Hero bets [$0.30]
* * 4 players fold.
* * vmanfunk raises to $0.60 Hero ??????

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Let's step back for a second and put him on a range first. To call pf, pp's (22-JJ), sc's, unsuited connectors, and random crap all come to mind. To minraise the flop, a flopped straight, sets, two pair, pp's, 9x, 8x, and various gutshots come to mind. We're behind a straight, sets, and two pair, and ahead of everything else. At 5nl, I would think 9x, 8x, various pairs that didn't hit a set, and gutshots make up a big part of his range - I think we're ahead way more often than we're behind at this point.

OOP, I would bump it to $1.50 - $1.60 expecting alot of the hands we're ahead of to call and hands we're behind to shove. The catch is that a few hands we're ahead of (8x, 9x, 88, TT, and JJ in particular) may also shove, so unfortunately I don't think we're getting good info here if he does shove. If he flats or folds, I think we got the info we wanted and play the rest of the hand. If he shoves, I'm calling at 5nl against an unknown.
 
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I make it 35c preflop, and I probably bet the flop bigger.

Once we're min-raised, things get trixie. You shouldn't be happy with this flop, as your overpair gets pretty weak on this super wet board. Even if we give him a crazy-wide raising range, we're not very far ahead. If he raises anything top pair or better, and anything with an 8 out draw or better, we get this:

Hero: 57.269% { AcAd }
Villain: 42.731% { TT-55, A9s, K9s, J9s, T8s+, 97s+, 86s+, 76s, 54s, A9o, K9o }

So we're not that far ahead, and villains tend to be sorta weak-tight at micros, so I don't give villain credit for always raising those draws. More likely, we're behind his range.

I probably just jam though. We have too much equity to fold, and the turn is just going to be horrible. This isn't a great spot, and the shove is probably break even, but at least at the micro stakes I know its at least a play that isn't bad.
 
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Thanks for the advice guys. I realized once the hand was underway that I should have raised more PF from MP; I suppose I was slightly tilted from the fact that all day long my AA and KK hadn't gotten me anything but blinds, and that my boat on another table had just gotten cracked by rivered quads.

Once the turn hit, I figured that I was probably up against top pair medium kicker, or perhaps a draw, and in my experience you have to bet HARD at the micros to chase people off their draws. So I jammed it. And the guy turned over... T8offsuit, for a flopped straight. I was livid. I wouldn't have been so frustrated if it wasn't for the fact that like I said, all day long folds, until something like T8o calls and cracks me.

Just now my KK was also cracked by 53suited, who called my PF raise of 4xthe big blind OOP when I was in the HJ; I had an overpair to a Q68 board, he check/called a pot-sized bet with a weak flush draw, again on the turn (another pot-sized bet) pairing his three, and hit his trips on the river by which time I was pot committed, and of course didn't suspect he had hit trips... That's poker, right! Sorry to have vented here, it's been happening all week. :mad:
 
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Poker wouldn't be exciting if you won every time you were a favorite (though it'd be a heck of a lot less frustrating)... :rolleyes:
 
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Tuble, thanks for the many hands posted first of all, this hand is interesting imo. I will go all-in in this hand but its close. My reasoning: I dont think he has 10-8 very often and he should be raising a little bigger with 2 pair hands. So I think we are ahead here. However I play higher dont have that much of an experience in lower limits, so can be quite sure, I'm open to discuss
 
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On the contrary, it's my great pleasure to post and get so many great responses from the players who frequent this forum. It's been an astounding learning experience. At least the past couple of days have begun to swing my way. I'm actually showing profits again (which for the last week I hadn't been), so things are looking up. Looking forward to readings some hand histories from you as well. Best of luck,

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