$5 NLHE Full Ring: A9s floating and donk betting

888 Poker - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 101 BB (VPIP: 8.51, PFR: 3.72, 3Bet Preflop: 1.61, hands: 188)
BTN: 40 BB (VPIP: 6.25, PFR: 5.71, 3Bet Preflop: 5.08, Hands: 177)
SB: 111 BB (VPIP: 25.45, PFR: 21.82, 3Bet Preflop: 17.65, Hands: 56)
Hero (BB): 106 BB
UTG: 116.8 BB (VPIP: 10.71, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 56)
UTG+1: 36.6 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 26.67, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 15)
MP: 95.6 BB (VPIP: 44.44, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 46)
MP+1: 81.8 BB (VPIP: 8.70, PFR: 4.38, 3Bet Preflop: 4.44, Hands: 163)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A:spade: 9:spade:

fold, fold, fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.4 BB, 2 players) K:diamond: 6:heart: 2:heart:
Hero checks, CO bets 3.2 BB, Hero calls 3.2 BB

Turn: (12.8 BB, 2 players) T:heart:
Hero bets 7.4 BB, fold

Hero wins 12.2 BB

Opponent was nitty, not sure if I should be playing this pf, but thought this was a good position to donk into him. It was the plan from the flop, although I think the flush draw hitting helped. Is this a profitable move? He had a high cbet and turn cbet was nearer 50% (although that's probably not over enough hands to be reliable). I was basically certain he'd give up anything that missed and with the flush draw, possibly top pair?

Not a good move floating when you have little to no equity. With some backdoor draws it's a better spot to do it. And also with such a nitty opponent it makes it even worse. He has a super tight range and you think trying to bluff him off that tight range is a good idea??
It worked out this time but it's not worth the risk.

thatspoker said:

Not a good move floating when you have little to no equity. With some backdoor draws it's a better spot to do it. And also with such a nitty opponent it makes it even worse. He has a super tight range and you think trying to bluff him off that tight range is a good idea??
It worked out this time but it's not worth the risk.

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Pretty much struggle playing against anyone nitty. My thoughts were that he's folding unless he has a K and the cbet basically means nothing. Been playing kinda loose tonight and rusty from not playing haha. The point in posting this was not having any equity - surely doing anything like this against a looser player would be worse than a nit?

If the nit is c-betting with a lot of his range (i.e. is not necessarily strong), this play is good with me. You can represent so many draws on scary turn cards. Furthermore, he'll fold to aggression, even if he's as strong as AK. This is a hand where you can play the opponent rather than your own cards. I like it.

Fold pre. His range has you crushed preflop. A9s vs a 3% opening range has only 29% equity. You're also OOP, so realizing all your equity is going to be harder. When you hit an A or a 9, you're still going to be behind a lot of times. It's also not about the amount of equity you have in the hand. It's about the +EV of the play. Defending A9s against a super-nit is probably almost never +EV.

Think check-folding flop is the best play once you call though. Half of his opening range includes AK/AA/KK, and you have basically no equity in the hand. Against a different type of opponent though, I think bluff-raising is alright.

Really bad play floating a cbet OOP with almost 0 equity.

I Usually if I don 't have connected on Flop, I dont Call a C-Bet.
But it depends on how he has behaved the opponent in the game, we can call.

Jreece18 said:

Pretty much struggle playing against anyone nitty. My thoughts were that he's folding unless he has a K and the cbet basically means nothing. Been playing kinda loose tonight and rusty from not playing haha. The point in posting this was not having any equity - surely doing anything like this against a looser player would be worse than a nit?

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Well I wouldn't recommend doing this against almost any player when you have such low equity. And against a nit your low equity is 0.
You say the cbet means nothing but his range is already super tight so it usually means he has a big hand. Most likely he had something like QQ or JJ without a heart and you got lucky.

Umm, yeah floating with A9 generarally not good, but if we have clear image on opp like this, we can forgot about equity, 0 so what, if he played like fold machine, on most cases he folds to aggression, so i like this move, and exploiting scary cards, would be very profitable against those nits.

How should I play against a nit like this? Before I've kind of just left them alone other than if they're to my left and I can steal. This works (I don't lose much to them), but feels kinda weak considering they aren't exactly good players most of the time.

BPEPFPDP said:

Umm, yeah floating with A9 generarally not good, but if we have clear image on opp like this, we can forgot about equity, 0 so what, if he played like fold machine, on most cases he folds to aggression, so i like this move, and exploiting scary cards, would be very profitable against those nits.

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Hmmm we dont rep anything

But his bet on flop looks weakish

I think the check-fold the best option

Jreece18 said:

How should I play against a nit like this? Before I've kind of just left them alone other than if they're to my left and I can steal. This works (I don't lose much to them), but feels kinda weak considering they aren't exactly good players most of the time.

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They might not be good but when they start putting money in the pot you know they have something. So just avoid them when they are active and take advantage of their tightness by stealing liberally.