Originally Posted by Stu_Ungar
Yes and No
Yes if you think you can make him fold .. so say you call with 55 YOU ARE NOT SETMINING his CO range is far too weak to call, hit sets and then get stacks in. He wont stack off often enough to justify the call. So you need to look for some spots where you can make him fold. Now the thing to remember is his CO range should be wide so really we only have to get him to fold his missed hands on the flop.
No if you dont feel confident in making a few plays.
Calling a CO raise with a small PP is not the same as calling an UTG raise with a small PP. When UTG opens we dont feel that we can make him fold the majority of his range, but we do feel his range is tight enough that he will often stack off when we hit a set (HERE WE ARE SETMINING).
setmining =/= calling with a PP and hoping to hit a set.
Setmining = calling with a PP and hoping to hit a set against a player whose range is so tight we expect him to stack off the majority of the time we hit our set.
Stu: Once again thank you for this.
I think BelgoSuisse said something very similiarly:
Originally Posted by BelgoSuisse
About the red line and the vpip/pfr spread.
There's nothing intrinsically wrong with calling someone's open raise provided
1. you have position
2. you are in either one of these situations:
2.A. villain has a wide range and you think you can make him fold a lot postflop. This is particularly effective when calling with suited ace-x , suited connectors, basically any hand that can flop enough equity for you to semi bluff many boards with enough equity to make it profitable.
2.B. villain has a tight range and you think you can stack him a lot when you flop a monster. This is particularly effective when calling with pocket pairs in order to flop sets
When you get confused about 2A and 2B, i.e. you try too hard to make people with tight ranges fold, or you play fit or fold against people with a wide range, you start burning money.
More Pure Gold. Honestly, I love Cardschat! Some of the advice is worth so much to a novice player if he(she) would actually listen.
I have struggled with the same issue with how to play TT 99 88 when in postion vs a raise by a villain with a wide range. I stopped 3betting here a week or two ago as I was getting stacked so I started calling but then was stuck playing fit or flop or worse calling a flop bet and folding on the turn.
I think the Cliff note here is; If you have a decent (read: tight) image with medium pp's and you have position vs loose raiser you can flat his pf raise and then test him by re-raising his flop bet or betting if he checks??