$5 NLHE Full Ring: 5NL Pocket KK's, Villian flatted 3 bet, ace on flop.

$5 NL HE Full Ring: 5NL Pocket KK's, Villian flatted 3 bet, ace on flop.

This hand came up, was wondering if I played it too passively. The villian was 19/8. I 3 bet him from BB with pocket kk's he flatted and ace came on the flop. I usually lead, but decided to check cuz I felt an Ace was definitely in his range and see what he did.

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Full Tilt, $0.02/$0.05 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

MP1: $5.03 (100.6 bb)
MP2: $3.13 (62.6 bb)
MP3: $5.07 (101.4 bb)
CO: $0.89 (17.8 bb)
BTN: $1.44 (28.8 bb)
SB: $4.48 (89.6 bb)
Hero (BB): $5 (100 bb)
UTG+2: $5.85 (117 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with K K
2 folds, MP2 raises to $0.15, 4 folds, Hero raises to $0.60, MP2 calls $0.45

Flop: ($1.22) 9 8 A (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $0.80

If you don't bet the ace, he will and now what? Exactly. Next time cbet then slow down on the turn if called.

Definitely c-bet here. It's a shitty spot, but c-betting is the best option. As played, I think you can just fold.

c/c vs. most but c/f vs. this guy.

wat?

How many A's are in this guys flatting range?
AQ, AJ(s), and....?

Seems more likely PP that figure you wiffed the board (or he hit a set)

WA/WB call and see what happens on the turn. If he has a A or set be bets, and maybe he bluffs you on the turn too. Probably checks behind for a cheap showdown with anything else.

edit-Pokerstove that: he's 4betting with AA-QQ, AK. So if he flats with AQ, AJs, 22-JJ you're ahead like 64.8% of the time. (if his rasing range is 8% this makes up 75% of that range and maybe he flats you with AK and AA too but...serriously do you think he does?)

Just C-Bet here.

Ubercroz said:

wat?

How many A's are in this guys flatting range?
AQ, AJ(s), and....?

Seems more likely PP that figure you wiffed the board (or he hit a set)

WA/WB call and see what happens on the turn. If he has a A or set be bets, and maybe he bluffs you on the turn too. Probably checks behind for a cheap showdown with anything else.

edit-Pokerstove that: he's 4betting with AA-QQ, AK. So if he flats with AQ, AJs, 22-JJ you're ahead like 64.8% of the time. (if his rasing range is 8% this makes up 75% of that range and maybe he flats you with AK and AA too but...serriously do you think he does?)

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I don't think passive FR micro nits bet this flop with a worse hand very often.

yeah, FR, I wasnt thinking full ring I guess... but I still hate to fold to a 3/4 pot bet on the flop because his range connects there sometimes.

yeah and based on that i'm not sure he 4-bets AK either.

ugh FR is stupid
(we're still ahead of his range even if he does flat with AK btw, but maybe not his betting range...)

Poker is stupid too

I like check/calling flop, and check/folding to a turn barrel. Villain checks behind most PPs here imo and generally has either air or Ax. He'll most likely give up on the turn unless he's super aggro, but seeing as we're OOP its just too spewy to c/c 3 streets and hope he doesn't have an A.

I only like cbetting this flop if I know villain doesn't like folding to cbets on dry boards. If he's a fit/fold type of player (and this is 5nl so most likely), cbetting doesnt do much except get him to fold his. If he's tricky, cbetting is good but I doubt thats the case here.

I stoved some ranges....This is a player who calls quite a bit preflop (19% is slightly on the high side for FR) and rarely raises. (For the tiny bit of FR that I play, I run like 14/10 at microstakes.) I don't think he is folding much of his raising range and 8% or so does include ATs/AJo.

So he's a fairly passive nit...even if you eliminate the chance that he bets sets I think he's rarely bluffing (typical passive microstakes player thinks "OMG he is tarping me with da AA) I think he has us beat approximately 80% of the time on this board.