$5 NLHE Full Ring: 5-way flop with aces.. Shortstack pushes, gets raised, push or fold here?

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$5 NLHE Full Ring: 5-way flop with aces.. Shortstack pushes, gets raised, push or fold here?

poker stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 2074080
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MP2: $5.06
CO: $5.00
BTN: $5.59
SB: $4.88
Hero (BB): $17.35
UTG: $2.64
UTG+1: $5.86
UTG+2: $4.24
MP1: $1.62

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BB with A :diamond: A :heart:
3 folds, MP1 calls $0.05, MP2 calls $0.05, CO calls $0.05, BTN calls $0.05, SB calls $0.03, Hero raises to $0.25, MP1 calls $0.20, 1 fold, CO calls $0.20, BTN calls $0.20, SB calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.30) 5 :heart: 2 :heart: K :diamond: (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1, MP1 raises to $1.37 all in, CO folds, BTN raises to $2.37,
 
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Honestly with the sacks where there at and how low the stakes r I would raise btn all in I mean the flush is the only thing that can beat u unless ur already crushed (2pair, trips) so give him the harder decision by raising him cuz he's already pot committed by raising half his stack so if he's smart he's shoving on the turn no matte what anyway

Hope it helps:)
 
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You should have raised much more preflop, i would have made it $0.45 here (3x + 1x per limper + another ones because we're oop). As for the flop a little info on villain would help but assuming he's unknown I shove as he will have Kx as well as flush draws a lot as well as a set of 5's or 2's that we're losing to.
 
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In a 5 way pot I don't like calling or shoving here. Like js said you need to raise that alot bigger preflop.
 
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Thanks guys, I think the pre-flop size is the most important, thanks !
Moved in and he indeed had 5's, the shortstack had air.
 
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As well I 100% agree with the bigger pre flop raise that wouldn't of solved ur problem compleatly because I'm calling 100% of the time on the button with 5s for only 20¢ more than ur original raise as I'm sure a lot of ppl will.

And u said u were calling him down which I think would be the worst I think the most important thing in this would be keeping the pressure on after taking the lead pre and in this situation, OOP, he just out flopped u and keeping the heat on yes, would still lose u the pot but would still give u fold equity unlike check calling
 
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More pre. Any stats would be handy.

Get it in OTF, we have BDFD and this can be a K a decent amount of the time. If its 2 pair we have outs.
 
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MP1 is obviously getting it in with his entire continuing range here, which could be anything from Kx to draws. We can be reasonably confident we're ahead of his range.

Button's raise is a bit more concerning. Sets are obviously a possibility but so are Kx hands - I think most players with draws in his spot probably just flat if they're going to continue since they know they're going to showdown either way against the short stack and they don't have to worry about you re-raising if they just call. Makes naked bluffs unlikely too, so we give him credit for a real hand. We're ahead of Kx, we've got outs against two pair, backdoor draws against sets... unless we've got some kind of read that villain is only doing this with sets I think we get it in but it's not a snap for me.
 
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I raise big preflop and then most likely shove the flop, and hope they hit a king or something like that.
 
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