$5 NLHE 6-max: turned bottom straight on scary river

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$5 NL HE 6-max: turned bottom straight on scary river

Stacks:
* No_W8ting with $5.00
* BTN with $5.05
* SB with $6.57
* BB with $5.00
* UTG with $0.87
* MP with $6.72

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Blinds: $0.00/$0.00
Site: full tilt poker
* * Dealt to SB:8♦ 7♥
* * Sklansky group 8
Preflop:
* * UTG calls [$0.05]
* * MP calls [$0.05]
* * 1 players fold.
BTN calls [$0.05] Hero calls [$0.03]
* * BB checks
* * Total folds this street: 1
* * Potsize: $0.25
Flop: 6♣ 10♦ J♠ Hero checks
* * BB checks
* * UTG checks
* * MP checks BTN checks
* * Potsize: $0.25
Turn: 9♠ Hero bets [$0.20]
* * 2 players fold.
* * MP raises to $0.40
* * 1 players fold.
Hero calls [$0.20]
* * Total folds this street: 3
* * Potsize: $1.05
River: 8♠ Hero checks
* * MP bets [$0.55]

HERO ??
 
c9h13no3

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Your turn call makes me vomit. You *must* 3-bet the turn. I kinda like taking a stab at the flop too.
 
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As played, you really have no idea where villain is at. He could have the higher straight, he could have a spade flush, he could have a set of 9's, maybe he made two pair?...you have no idea.

As played, its a call in the dark here. You have a decent hand but could easily be losing. Its hard to say what exactly you should do, other than not wind up in this position.

Obviously, betting out at some points before the river would be good. First of all, in 5NL...i think a bigger bet than .20 into a .25 pot is in order when you hit a straight. I'd bet .40.....5NL will get a lot of callers no matter what, just put the money in the middle.

You have to come over the top on villains re-raise. You have no idea what he has at this point. Basically, QK is going to shove on you like %100 of the time. Flush draws, TPTK, two pair, and sets are all going to know they are behind, you have a straight, and you are going to make them call against the odds.


Here is the other really big problem:

What was your plan when you called villains re-raise? Did you have a plan? You have got to think "hey, this guy came in for the re-raise on the turn, he is betting out on any river". So, here is the thing...if you know he is going to bet the next street, and you think you are behind, FOLD the turn to his re-raise. If you think you are ahead or don't know, then you have to come over the top yourself.

You are playing this hand like you have something like QK or AQ of spades. I might float those hands to give lower straights or flushes the rope to hang themselves. Your hand doesnt have the luxury of doing that. So, since you dont have the nuts, the second nuts, etc...you really really need to plan ahead.

Basically, you let an undefined hand get to the river when you are holding a strong but vulnerable hand. He may have nothing but a pair of Jacks or 9's at this point but you have no way of knowing that.
 
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3 bet turn.

If he has KQ take a note that he doesn't isolate limper pre flop wide enough or that he doesn't take stabs at limped pots light.

You need to raise this turn though since if he slow playing a set or 2 pair for some reason, he isn't folding. However if the river comes something like the King or 8 then he is not going to be putting more money in and only calling. You dont want to lose value here.

As played I would fold river as you now don't beat much
 
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My advice here is to call along. It happens, but rather seldom that you end up on the idiot end of the straight, and thus only a call here, but villain is making it so you really have to tag along. One of those unfortunate things that occasionally happen in poker.

Much more likely is that villain has a draw, and maybe 2p.
 
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3bet the turn.

His range consists of:
Straight draws
Flush draws
Two pair
Sets
KQ

If you 3bet now your more than likely getting action from all of these hands. Also KQ is even more unlikely when we factor in that he that he limped behind with this hand.
 
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