$5 NLHE 6-max: Trips feel vulnerable, turn + river action?

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Villian: 29/0 only over 14 hands but reliable enough to think he's just a passive player.

I raise preflop purely because of dead money + limper and I wanted to be in a pot with him and Q,10 I guess plays ok lol.

Ayway, thoughts here? I bet the flop obviously, however check the turn...I hate this card and feel it hits him (the heart) so I don't mind check/check so the river isn't going to be bloated so much. I suppose it's very possible for him to limp anything but when he leads out for nearly pot size...I'm not sure if it's even worth a call here? K,10/A,10 and the hearts all have us..and I'm not sure such a passive playe leads out with weaker than flushes/FH's here...thoughts? Could he be betting a much weaker Queen?

I wouldn't normally snap this of in general but I thought we might be beat...what's your thought son the hand?

Should we be betting the turn? And is folding the river weak?



pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop

UTG ($3.25)
MP ($2.60)
CO ($5.65)
Hero (Button) ($5)
SB ($5.72)
BB ($6.14)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q
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, 10
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UTG calls $0.05, 2 folds, Hero bets $0.20, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.47) 10
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, 10
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, 4
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(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.35, UTG calls $0.35

Turn: ($1.17) K
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(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($1.17) 3
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(2 players)
UTG bets $0.80, Hero folds

Total pot: $1.17 | Rake: $0.05
 
c9h13no3

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Whatever you do, don't fold the river..... Errrr....

Checking the turn is fine, because a lot of people will fold the middle pocket pair hands that they limped UTG with (or A4). But when you check back the turn, you're telling your opponent that you don't have anything, and you're asking him to steal the pot (this is a good thing). So you can't fold the river when he finally makes the bet that you induced on the turn.

Against a 29/0, I probably just bet/fold the turn. Checking the turn is fine if you think you can induce bluffs from your opponent, but inducing bluffs isn't the line I'd be looking to take against an obvious passive fish.
 
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b/f the turn for sure. As played you should call this all day long and never fold. You're costing yourself a lot folding in these types of situations.
 
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Villain open limps and his stats look terrible even at 14 hands, I'd say he's a fish. So I bet turn and expect to get value from weaker Tx/JJ and occasional KQ/KJ dumb overcard calls or even underpairs with a heart in them. A little thin but I deem it EV+

Folding the river is vile. You need to be good less than 30% of the time. There's at least 8 combos of weaker ten, and plenty of potential bluffs as fish like overcards on low flops especially paired boards.
 
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For sure, even passive fish do crazy things on paired boards because they assume when you bet out on this type of board you can't actually have it because you should "lolslowplay trips" obv.
 
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yes, folding the river is weak.
 
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once again, stop overthinking things at 5nl, you don't raise because of dead money at 5nl, maybe that's why you are stuck.

raise strong hands for value and that's it.

don't bluff, don't steal, don't 3bet bluff and crap you don't need.

as played bet flop, bet turn shove river.
 
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once again, stop overthinking things at 5nl, you don't raise because of dead money at 5nl, maybe that's why you are stuck.

raise strong hands for value and that's it.

don't bluff, don't steal, don't 3bet bluff and crap you don't need.

as played bet flop, bet turn shove river.

dont 3 steal or 3 bet light?

seriously?!

its not as simple as that.. you can't just say 'don't do it' its situation specific and not stealing or 3 betting light in a 6 max structure is a massive leak whatever the limit you're playing at.

raising a limper IP when he's going to play fit or fold is profitable as well..

bet/fold turn, if flatted ship river, easy game ram :)
 
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