$5 NLHE 6-max: TPGK in 4way 3bet pot

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5NL 6-max zoom on pokerstars. I have some stats on all villains but the sample sizes aren't massive. I also have a note on the BB villain: he's a passive fish who doesn't 3bet AKo and will float a flop Cbet with Ace high.

BTN: $4.83
SB: $5.00
BB: $10.40 ---> 16/12 over 94 hands, 0% Cbet, 0% FvCbet, 5% 3bet, 50% Fv3bet
UTG: $9.93 ---> 15/13 over 41 hands, 0% Cbet, 0% FvCbet, 0% 3bet, 0% Fv3bet
MP: $5.13 ---> 21/15 over 34 hands, 100% Cbet, 67% FvCbet, 20% 3bet, 0% Fv3bet
Hero (CO): $5.38

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is CO with Q:diamond: A:club:
UTG raises to $0.15, MP raises to $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, 2 folds, BB calls $0.45, UTG calls $0.35

Flop: ($2.02) A:heart: 9:club: 3:club: (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, MP bets $1.05, Hero raises to $4.88 all in

When MP decided to 3bet, I knew that my AQo could be well ahead of his range (since he had a 20% 3bet), plus I had position on him, so I didn't want to fold, but at the same time, I didn't want to cold 4bet and then have MP decide to 5bet shove and blow me off my hand, so I thought that calling was the best option. UTG had a 0% 3bet over 41 hands, so I was fairly confident that he wouldn't 4bet without KK+ and thus I didn't have to worry about getting blown off my hand from a bluff squeeze.

With so many callers, I knew there was a chance that people were set-mining, but on a 2-tone flop, I thought that any flush draw could stack off too. I contemplated between shoving the flop vs calling the flop and shoving all non-club turn cards, but eventually went with the former option (shoving the flop). I wasn't scared about MP's Cbet because he had a 67% Cbet and I figured that he could easily have a hand like AJ/AQ/flush draw. So I thought I'd get it in on the flop and hope that no one has AK, a set or Aces up.

What do you think about the way hero played this hand? Should I have folded preflop? Should I have flat-called the flop Cbet to invite others in?
 
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I'd prefer to call the flop and shove a blank turn if you think you're ahead.


But I prefer to let it go preflop. Sample sizes are way too small to conclude anything non-decent, and an open-raise by UTG nit + a 3-bet by ok-looking HJ means that HJ should have us crushed here (AK/QQ+).
 
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Fold pre! 3bet sample is wayyyy to small, thats only like 1 3 bet over 35 hands! You are never putting yourself in a good position by flatting here pre and are inviting UTG to come along or push you off your hand.

Pretty disgusting that you have to play against villains that are this tight in the 5NL zoom pool.
 
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The players on this table are the reason I can't handle Stars haha depressingly nitty. Can't be fun to play.
 
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Yeah I agree with you guys that folding preflop was the way to go here. I just called because I felt that I could use position to my advantage, but I think that that was a mistake, given how low the SPR would be on the flop.

Pretty disgusting that you have to play against villains that are this tight in the 5NL zoom pool.

Yeah it sucks. But zoom poker is always tighter than the regular tables. I mainly play zoom so that I can see more hands per hour, even though I have to put up with tougher competition and lower win rates.
 
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I also agree with the others. Fold pre...

I'm not going to elaborate on the post flop because it's irrelevant. What are your plans when UTG 4 bet squeezes your weak AQo hand?
 
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I also agree with the others. Fold pre...

I'm not going to elaborate on the post flop because it's irrelevant. What are your plans when UTG 4 bet squeezes your weak AQo hand?

When a nit with a 0% 3bet over 41 hands decides to cold 4bet? Obviously he has KK+ and I can just fold. The point is that I don't expect this to happen very often.
 
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When a nit with a 0% 3bet over 41 hands decides to cold 4bet? Obviously he has KK+ and I can just fold. The point is that I don't expect this to happen very often.

This doesn't make the call pre correct.
 
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Preflop has been beat to death.

As played, we do have the Ac, so I don't mind flat call OTF. I think we can clamp it down OTT, and get a little clearer idea of what villains have. Let's use our position for reads on the villains here.
 
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A general rule I use... If you can't 4bet a 3bet then don't flat it.

This is awful and your only playing against hands that beat you.
 
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Folding pre and not even thinking about calling.
UTG open and 3 bet from MP, AQ is out of there, especially in ZOOM with no reads
 
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These bets serious... i'd fold AK even we will be way behind if going with AQ to this mad hand. only straight saves you... probably flopped.

btw i like this phrase.
Preflop has been beat to death.
 
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These bets serious... i'd fold AK even we will be way behind if going with AQ to this mad hand. only straight saves you... probably flopped.

btw i like this phrase.

Actually I was just about to ask that: if I had AKo instead of AQo, what would be the correct preflop play here? 4bet, fold or call 3bet?
 
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well it's personal question? for me AK weak hand doesn't matter AKs AKo for these bets, mb i wrong but this one not good, fold here, its only my opinion.
 
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