$5 NLHE 6-max: TP wet board turn decision 3bet pot OOP vs TAG

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The turn call feels weak. Maybe Bet/Fold or even X/Fold is better?

His turn bet was fast and river bet instantaneous.


PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 51.8 BB
Hero (SB): 100 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 115.4 BB (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 22)
MP: 187.2 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
CO: 101.4 BB (VPIP: 10.94, PFR: 7.81, 3Bet Preflop: 3.45, Hands: 67)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K A

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 10.4 BB, fold, UTG calls 7.4 BB

Flop: (21.8 BB, 2 players) 2 K T
Hero bets 11.6 BB, UTG calls 11.6 BB

Turn: (45 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, UTG bets 22 BB, Hero calls 22 BB

River: (89 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero checks, UTG bets 71.4 BB and is all-in
 
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Bet more on the flop.

I'd prefer bet/folding the turn and then check/calling the river.
As played, I think I let it go here with the speed-read. Feels like a made hand that can beat us.
Wouldn't really mind a call either, though. KQ/KJ could think you have QQ/JJ and are scared of the K, and we can't really discount a whiffed AsX.
 
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Bet bigger on the flop. Something like 60-65% pot. The pot is already bloated, and the board is wet and coordinated. Bet/fold the turn around 50-60% pot. X/fold river if called. All SDV hands that you beat check back, hands you beat don't call a river bet, and it's not really likely you're going to get bluffed when you've shown strength.
 
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Ok thx. I folded river.
 
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As played you've shown youre afraid/weak. I think villain is bluffing or playing with a worse hand. Really all you need to be worried about is AA, KK or TT. I think those are the only hands on villains range that beats you. He's probably open raising from utg with AK suited and maybe offsuit but not with AK spades (because the king of spades is already out there.) most other hands in his range are pocketpairs and nitfish don't like to throw away pocket pairs and will stack off with them even if its not the best pair. Of course the sample size is small, but based on what we've seen so fair in going to call him a nitfish.
 
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Maybe my read on villain is off but I definitely agree though about betting bigger on the flop. Keep control of this hand I think if you bet bigger you can barrel the turn and check the river or check/fold the turn and fire the river if he checks behind, but you definitely need to show strength on the flop. Otherwise, you under rep your hand and make it easier for villain to bluff us and harder for us to pick up on his bluff.
 
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Yeah, I wanted to bet more on the flop, but for some reason I though I'm always supposed to bet around half pot in 3bet pot =) Btw did you notice he underbetting the turn, imo, this further polarizes his range, I could see him to do this with both A-high draws (many do a reflexed blocking bet here or more value dunno) and made A-highs flushes.
 
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I concur with the 1/2 pot size bet on 3-bet pot. His bet UTG shows strength. His 3-bet call shows strength. He calls your c-bet, strength. He bets turn, more strength. As is often the case on the posts I respond to I see TPTK being overvalued. How much strength does V have to show for us to get out of the way with our on one pair? Shoulda folded turn bet. A's and T's are very real possibilities not to mention spades hit. Prolly not K's. KT is also a possibility since it's 6-max, UTG may bet that. And he could have also 9J, that I sthe only one that could have maybe been bet off hand had we bet more on the flop and had we double barreled. Hard to pull the trigger on the turn, but it's often the right thing to do. So I either say we c/f turn or double barrel there.
 
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