€5 NLHE 6-max: straight draw vs fish fold turn

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blindblake

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Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 28/18/3

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pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, €0.05 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (CO) (€4.72)
Button (€1.26)
SB (€4.05)
BB (€6.50)
UTG (€10)
MP (€3.95)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8
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, 8
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1 fold, MP bets €0.14, Hero calls €0.14, 2 folds, BB calls €0.09

Flop: (€0.44) 7
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, 5
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, 6
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(3 players)
BB checks, MP bets €0.32, Hero calls €0.32, 1 fold

Turn: (€1.08) 5
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(2 players)
MP bets €0.60, Hero calls €0.60

River: (€2.28) K
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(2 players)
MP bets €2.89 (All-In), Hero folds

Total pot: €2.28 | Rake: €0.12

(I don't really know if flatting here was a good move, preflop i still have many doubts about flatting and 3betting, I know i should consider oppo's range, but still i have little informations about pokerstars players. So the flop came down and I had a straight draw. I thought calling the flop raise was fine, but maybe I should have fold the turn raise)
 
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ScottishMatt

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I would have called the flop, and folded the turn. I think it is too unlikely he is betting with worse there, and if there are 4 to a straight on the board it will be harder to extract value. Just my thoughts, they are probably wrong...
 
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HoldOnTheRail

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You exactly look like you are drawing or having middle pocket. He knows that you would raise on that drawy flop with a set.thats why he barrels, cause he feels safe. I think he got no hand. I think he would play different with a set on flop. He would check turn or want you drawing dead with right odds. He would also may check river to induce missed draw bluffs. And he doesnt do anything like that. He knows you wont call river with that king on the board so why he values that big, if he gets called only by a strong hand. I think you can fold turn here ussually. But I really dont feel his hand here.
 
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CaptainKout

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I'm sure one of the regs will interject soon so stay tuned.

I probably raise this flop to like 0.90 and reluctantly get it in vs a shove. You're flipping with A high flush draw and about 40% vs over pairs. And since 28/18 fish are usually cbetting way too much you'll get plenty of folds. Lots of premium pairs will also choose to call, in which case you'll likely see the turn and river for free. Calling the flop is not a big mistake(if at all) because you have so much equity but you'll need to fold to a lot of turn cards(most paint and any spade) so I'd say raising the flop is a better option.
 
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