$5 NLHE 6-max: Staright draw facing a turn shove

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Ok so clearly the Poker tracker has gone insane. I haven't even played a 1000 hand at 5NL. So the Stats are wrong. V is unknown.

partypoker - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 102.2 BB (VPIP: 28.43, PFR: 16.17, 3Bet Preflop: 5.15, hands: 13,923)
SB: 183.4 BB (VPIP: 27.45, PFR: 16.61, 3Bet Preflop: 6.26, Hands: 13,270)
Hero (BB): 101 BB
UTG: 105.6 BB (VPIP: 28.08, PFR: 15.54, 3Bet Preflop: 5.62, Hands: 13,800)
CO: 56.6 BB (VPIP: 29.59, PFR: 16.70, 3Bet Preflop: 5.20, Hands: 12,064)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 9c Ts
fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.4 BB, fold, Hero calls 1.4 BB

Flop : (5.2 BB, 2 players) 8h Ah Js
Hero checks, BTN bets 3.6 BB, Hero calls 3.6 BB

Turn : (12.4 BB, 2 players) Qs
Hero checks, BTN bets 10 BB, Hero raises to 24 BB, BTN raises to 96.2 BB and is all-in, Hero ?
 
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I think you have to call here, you already have the straight and the villain still needs to hit one more card to get the straight or flush (assuming that's the play here). Best case scenario is that he overplayed his two pair with eight AQ or QJ and you'd easily win the hand here. If he has a straight draw right now he's either trying to get one of the cards you already have and is sitting with the other in his hand already so you'd split the pot and break even or he has the A high straight and either needs the K or T to finish it, or he has KT and just hit the flush and doesn't understand the term value bet. He could also have a flush draw but given that 5 spades would already be in play it's unlikely he hits the 6th one. So really it comes down to do you think his hand has KT in it and he hit the straight or is he waiting to hit the straight, but I'd put my money on the second one and call that shove.
 
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Easy fold pre bro. Your hand is bad, your position is bad.

Lead the turn and GII with the 2nd nuts.
 
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Fold Pre
Call Flop
Lead Turn
As played, call turn. You could be beat, but KT is the only hand that is ahead of you here, and you have a T, making it less likely that the villain has one. Most of the time villain has two pair, a set, or a draw.
 
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Fold Pre
Fold Flop
Lead Turn
As played, call turn. You could be beat, but KT is the only hand that is ahead of you here, and you have a T, making it less likely that the villain has one. Most of the time villain has two pair, a set, or a draw.

I don't understand your reasoning behind folding the flop ???
 
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I don't understand your reasoning behind folding the flop ???

You are correct, call flop of course. I edited my comment shortly after typing that. I should not be doing this while multi-tabling :vollkomme
 
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Easy fold pre bro. Your hand is bad, your position is bad.

Lead the turn and GII with the 2nd nuts.

I thought it's usually a defend from the BB against BU, CO open. Have to study defending ranges then. Thanks.

He had me beat. K10
 
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Unknown villain, so what is a typical steal % in this game?

If it's 30% then villain's stealing range looks like: [22+,A2s+,K4s+,Q9s+,JTs,A2o+,K8o+,QJo]
Your equity against this range is 37%, and, as C9h says, you are out of position, with a hand that does not make top pair often.

If you knew the villain well enough to know how to exploit his weaknesses then you might be able to justify a raise or call.
 
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im no expert either but in my opinion you should be 3betting or folding vs btn steals. 9T isnt a terrible hand but i would prefer a pair or some bigger cards in my hand. 9T is mostly a drawing hand(given that its not suited its barely even that). and doesnt hit the flop that often which makes it hard to play out of position which is why you would want to give yourself an opportunity to take the pot down pre by 3betting which would also get you a lot more folds when you miss the flop and cbet.
Also i would not have called that raise out of position you are not getting good odds to draw to your straight.
 
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