$5 NLHE 6-max: Simple turn bet IP on paired board 3bet pot

Villain 28 hands, VPIP 15, RFI 23, PFR 12, CB 2/2, AFq 2/3, 3bet 0/10 -> He is shaping up to be another nitty wannabe tag with passive traits.

Hero passive and nitty

Assuming his range for value: TT+, AK, for bluff not so many given stats of both hero and villain, let say something like one random pair, and some Ax, one suited connector. I think he will CB his whole range, he also probably checks his whole range (at least sometimes) on the turn.

On turn hero decides to make a bet, now the problem is that bet is made as a blocker bet & deny equity for river and not for value.

Q1: Would you say this is standard value bet on the turn? If not value bet how you would classify it?

Q2: How would you play turn and river?

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 63.2 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
SB: 161 BB (VPIP: 18.92, PFR: 16.22, 3Bet Preflop: 13.33, Hands: 39)
BB: 51.8 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
UTG: 109.4 BB (VPIP: 16.38, PFR: 14.66, 3Bet Preflop: 2.08, Hands: 120)
Hero (MP): 151.4 BB
CO: 141.2 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q♥ Q♣

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, SB raises to 9 BB, fold, Hero calls 6 BB

Flop: (19 BB, 2 players) 7♣ T♥ 3♠
SB bets 13 BB, Hero calls 13 BB

Turn: (45 BB, 2 players) T♣
SB checks, Hero bets 20 BB, SB calls 20 BB

River: (85 BB, 2 players) 2♠
SB checks, Hero checks

Yes, the turn is a VB, and I'd prefer betting there. The river is also a VB. You have 7x, 88+. If you're betting ~35 on the river, you can fold to a shove and squeeze value from more second best hand combos.

Thx John. I’m trying to push myself against not turning to too nit and this hand was a candidate for twisted though process. It’s hard though, this guy had AA so in theory I should be happy but it’s getting a bit too weak.

I’d 4B pre as standard. But you have the read, sb 3B ranges should be fairly wide though.

I think given the read (I’m not saying its reliable btw) that the bet on the turn to buy the sd is pretty good.

The thing is once the T pairs we have a great bluff opportunity. I wouldn’t expect villain to have too many aces and kings after checking the turn so I would value bet river. But if I thought he did and he was nitty I’m jamming this card. We get close to 100% folds by jamming, lose 35% of the time by checking.

Play is standard pre and on the flop. When Villain checks the turn I'd see this as weakness or a trap. I think the turn bet is a required value bet. When Villain calls the turn and checks the river, she is either folding to a bet or trapping. In either case the best play is to check back.

I like the turn bet, his 3bet range from SB will be a bit wider I would assume so you can still get called by worse. River, not sure, might just check. You can sometimes go for thin value by betting small but I dont hate the check. I assume that most of his turn calling range that you dominate is gonna fold to the river bet, so I dont hate the check.

Gabe16 said:

I think given the read (I’m not saying its reliable btw)

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Gabe16 said:

Yes, not reliable, especially SB upswing gives no calling range, only 3bets. That is not typical player pool behavior though.

Gabe16 said:

The thing is once the T pairs we have a great bluff opportunity. I wouldn’t expect villain to have too many aces and kings after checking the turn so I would value bet river. But if I thought he did and he was nitty I’m jamming this card. We get close to 100% folds by jamming, lose 35% of the time by checking.

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I recognized that the board ‘has dynamics’ but failed to come up with these ideas. ty.

TheBigFinn said:

In either case the best play is to check back.

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Your thought process was 100% like mine, except that value part on turn was on third priority in hero’s mind.

Ahoy said:

I assume that most of his turn calling range that you dominate is gonna fold to the river bet, so I dont hate the check.

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This might well be true especially if small bet indicates small made hand typically, so you need to be selective what to call.

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