$5 NLHE 6-max: is SHOVING the right move here?

micromachine

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Poker Stars - $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em (6 players)
Poker Stars Hand Converter Tool from CardsChat.com

SB: $4.97
BB: $5.34
UTG: $7.03
MP: $1.86
CO: $5.14
BTN Hero: $4.93

Pre-flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN and dealt :8c4: :8s4:
UTG folds, MP calls $0.05, CO raises to $0.10, Hero raises to $0.20, SB folds, BB calls $0.15, MP folds, CO calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.67) :8d4: :6d4: :qs4: (3 players)
BB checks, CO bets $0.50, Hero raises to $4.73 (All-in), BB folds, CO calls $4.23

Turn: ($10.13) :8d4: :6d4: :qs4: :4d4: (2 players)

River: ($10.13) :8d4: :6d4: :qs4: :4d4: :2d4: (2 players)
 
bgomez89

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No and neither is minraising
 
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why not? how would you have played it then? I shoved because I was hoping he had a high pocket pair, AQ or some kind of draw which I would be ahead of.
 
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min raising preflop is bad because:

If you're trying to 3bet as a bluff it won't work, no one folds to a min raise
If you're 3betting for value, you're losing value because a minraise is so small.

Flop shove is bad because unless you have a good read that villain will stack with any draw, any TP, middle/bottom pair, a lot of the time villain will fold and you lose value. I would've just raised to $1.75-$2
 
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Think it this way: if someone shoves the flop, what do you call with? I easily muck a pair to a flop shove. Most of the times you'll be called by hands that beat you.
 
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Flat pf, raise flop smaller to induce calls from underpairs, weak draws and backdoor draws and whatever else. Shoving just folds out too much. Still profitable, but there are higher EV lines.
 
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