$5 NLHE 6-max: Should QQ or KK cbet on flop with Ace?

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Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 24/22/1.7

The villain is a reasonable player. His flop cbet rate is 33%.
My question is, should I have cbet on this flop with Ace?
What to do on the river? Thanks a lot.

poker stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

SB: $9.27 (185.4 bb)
Hero (BB): $4.88 (97.6 bb)
MP: $3.46 (69.2 bb)
CO: $5 (100 bb)
BTN: $5.50 (110 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Qs Qc
MP calls $0.05, CO folds, BTN raises to $0.15, SB folds, Hero raises to $0.45, MP calls $0.40, BTN calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.37) Th Ad 8s (3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($1.37) Qh (3 players)
Hero bets $0.50, MP folds, BTN calls $0.50

River: ($2.37) 5s (2 players)
Hero bets $1.50, BTN raises to $4.55 and is all-in.
 
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I think betting into two opponents isn't good.
Against one opponent in position, I would check back as per WA/WB.
OOP bet check fold.
River is an easy call for me. You are only loosing to 3 combos of aces + the J9 combos which are suited.
OOP I would usually raise more than that with another limper as well.
 
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You say the Villain is reasonable. From his pre flop action, I'm going to say possibly AJ+ I'll be pretty certain he doesn't have the AA. He would of probably raised your 3bet pre flop if he did to get more value. KJ is a possibility however playing the turn with a limp eliminates that for me. The shove on the river indicates a possible 2 pair or top pair of aces. Easy call for me.
 
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What kind of hands do players raise with? What kinds of hands do players call re-raises with?
Aces are a part of many of those hands. I would not c-bet.
Certainly call the river.
 
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KJs [1], AA;J9s [1], 88 [1], TT[1]
Personally I would use above combo count, making your 50% favorite, and you can call.

I wish I would know CB or not, I would not CB because there is still chance that my QQ is best hand, and betting would turn it to a bluff. That said, I’m probably wrong here. There is enough hands to call the CB, but you need to give up after CB or start multi barreling to fold weak aces and continue bluffing and that sucks with no outs.
 
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I personally would just lead the flop, but it doesn't really matter much. They're all likely close to 0 EV. Bet/fold, check/fold are both valid on this flop.
 
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I personally would just lead the flop, but it doesn't really matter much. They're all likely close to 0 EV. Bet/fold, check/fold are both valid on this flop.

I wonder how you know this, and more importantly for me, what should I do to study and learn this too?
 
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I would fold the river. You don't beat a lot of value hands and it doesn't make sense for him to bluff.
 
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I would fold the river. You don't beat a lot of value hands and it doesn't make sense for him to bluff.

Player has a set of Q's. He loses to a set of A's or a straight. Value hands he beats include Ax, two pair, and lower sets.
 
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