$5 NLHE 6-max: QQ facing a 4bet from BB on a draw on flop

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Reasons for 3 betting, obvious draws & want to give him bad odds to continue & hopefully GII in flop. thoughts???

pokerstars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

Hero (BTN): 110.4 BB
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 15.91, PFR: 10.23, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 88)
BB: 220.2 BB (VPIP: 9.52, PFR: 9.52, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 21)
UTG: 112.2 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 21)
MP: 108.4 BB (VPIP: 11.94, PFR: 8.96, 3Bet Preflop: 5.68, Hands: 211)
CO: 103.6 BB (VPIP: 17.78, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 10.53, Hands: 46)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Qd Qs
fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop : (6.4 BB, 2 players) Jd 4c 9c
BB checks, Hero bets 4 BB, BB raises to 10 BB, Hero raises to 28 BB, BB raises to 50 BB, ???
 
c9h13no3

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I am not eager to GII against a guy who has played 2/21 hands. The SPR is tiny.

Call his raise, see a turn, hope it's a red 4.
 
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Given the number of hands we are all just guessing. He is the big stack and looks to have felted someone before you got there. In the 21 hands you have on him he has put money in the pot twice and called (Counting that his VPIP a more reasonable 13.6). Also both other times he raised preflop.

It looks to me like he went trips hunting and hit it. It sucks, but its time to fold. JMHO
 
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I am not eager to GII against a guy who has played 2/21 hands. The SPR is tiny.

Call his raise, see a turn, hope it's a red 4.

You got it spot on. I shoved. He had j9. Held for him.
 
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In the 21 hands you have on him he has put money in the pot twice and called (Counting that his VPIP a more reasonable 13.6). Also both other times he raised preflop.
JMHO
Can you explain how you found out that he put money & called twice & the other 2 times raised pre? Does't raising pre gets added to the VPIP number as well?
 
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Interesting idea to just call his raise. I would just fold it though, him having set should be more likely than having J9.
 
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Lots of draws in villain's range, we're about 40% equity on the flop, 45% on blank turns by my simulations using this range. If hands like AJ are added, we get good.

I'm good with folding tho, reverse implied odds spot.

J9, KcQc, KcJc, KcTc, QT, AcJc, AcTc, Ac5c, Ac3c, Ac2c, 99, 44
 
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"The fourth raise means aces" - it's from Phil Gordon's "Little Green Book". Though this statement is more relevant for preflop i think it can be adapted to postflop too.

If provided statistics is everything you knew about your opponent then it isn't much; but one could definitely say he isn't wild. Thus it was safer to assume that he indeed had monster hand (either slow-played pocket pair (less likely) or strong connection with the flop resulted in 2 pairs or set).

So 5-bet/all-in seems out of the question; the options are calling or folding. As for calling: you need something better than possible 2 pairs/set of your opponent. This means you must improve to a set/quads of queens or better; but with 2 outs the odds can't justify calling. So i'd rather fold in this situation.
 
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