$5 NLHE 6-max: Over pair on low board, was my play correct? Hand #02

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PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 17.02, PFR: 17.02, 3Bet Preflop: 13.64, hands: 48)
Hero (SB): 105.6 BB
BB: 108.6 BB (VPIP: 30.95, PFR: 11.90, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 43)
UTG: 101 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
MP: 64.8 BB (VPIP: 85.71, PFR: 42.86, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
CO: 167 BB (VPIP: 20.45, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 45)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 9<font color='black'>♣</font> 9<font color='red'>♦</font>

UTG raises to 3 BB, MP raises to 5 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 4.6 BB, fold, UTG calls 2 BB

Flop: (16 BB, 3 players) 7<font color='red'>♦</font> 6<font color='black'>♠</font> 3<font color='red'>♥</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP bets 1 BB, Hero calls 1 BB, fold

Turn: (18 BB, 2 players) 3<font color='red'>♦</font>
Hero checks, MP bets 9 BB, Hero calls 9 BB

River: (36 BB, 2 players) 6<font color='black'>♣</font>
Hero checks, MP bets 35 BB, Hero calls 35 BB

MP shows 7<font color='black'>♣</font> A<font color='black'>♠</font> (Two Pair, Sevens and Sixes)
(Pre 29%, Flop 21%, Turn 11%)
Hero shows 9<font color='black'>♣</font> 9<font color='red'>♦</font> (Two Pair, Nines and Sixes)
(Pre 71%, Flop 79%, Turn 89%)
Hero wins 101.6 BB

Q1: Was my call pre-flop a right move? I had a very small sample of MP hover he was acting a bit crazy. I think that on a long term it is losing strategy to call 3bet with mid pocket pairs

Q2: Postflop was my play correct, I still had an over pair, my way of thinking was ok he might have 67 or TT+ but then he would probably bet bigger.
 
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Flat pre definitely fine. Your hand is way too strong to fold and squeezing doesn't make much sense either.

I think villain plays TT+ the same way which is a slight concern. Villain looks like a really unconvential player though, considering min 3-bet, minbet on the flop, full pot on the river... Tough spot, but I think going for the call here is fine. From his plays he looks fishy enough to overvalue even a hand like 88 here. And you get some info on which hand he played this way, which is valuable as well if you look to play a longer session.

Just looked at results. Do you mind giving me his pokerstars name? :)
 
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I pretty much agree with nino on everything. I think squeezing could make sense because you would like to get value from MP, but its a thin value for sure. You are never folding to such a dmall 3Bet anyways.

I think you could raise on the flop, you will get value from all pairs. I think making assumptions on weak players quickly is really important. What turn cards do you feel happy about? Pretty much only a 9, 8 or 2, a card that pairs the board isnt too bad. The point is that 10/47 cards make you feel fine and 2/47 exited while 37/47 makes the turn decition though, why mot just raise, get value from some and get to the though turn desicion less often?

As played I think calling X/C turn is good.

I would consider folding river, the only hands we beat are a 7 or 88 and considering how loose he has been playing he could have pretty much any 3 or 6 and TT+. I would make the call because its a close one and why not choose the one that gives most information? Take note if he choose to bluff with air.
 
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First up he is a fish, his stack size is fishy, his stats are fishy and the min raise preflop is fishy, anyone who knows what they are doing doesn't make these silly preflop min raises. So he's just clicking buttons because he doesn't really know what he is doing but still wants to appear strong.
So I'd raise the flop bet, his bet is mostly a probe bet to see where he stands. (occasionally it will be to induce) If you just call 1bb how strong can you be? Answer= not very, and if he was an astute player he would know he can blast you out of the pot later in the hand.
If you make the flop 14-16bb and he raises then you can fold and sleep at night. There are a ton of small pairs set mining in the SB here and this flop hits that range, even if he has AA he should be nervous of raising you.
So if you bet 15bb say and he calls, just keep betting until he shows you you are beat. Fish usually can't wait to get their money in with strong hands and telegraph it.
As it played out he bet turn and river thinking he was ahead because you played it so weak. Sure you will lose to the occasional bigger pair here but you have to gamble with the fish a bit because you can never really be sure of their ranges.
 
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I think you could raise on the flop, you will get value from all pairs. I think making assumptions on weak players quickly is really important. What turn cards do you feel happy about? Pretty much only a 9, 8 or 2, a card that pairs the board isnt too bad. The point is that 10/47 cards make you feel fine and 2/47 exited while 37/47 makes the turn decition though, why mot just raise, get value from some and get to the though turn desicion less often?
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Yeah I think the best option here.
 
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First up he is a fish, his stack size is fishy, his stats are fishy and the min raise preflop is fishy, anyone who knows what they are doing doesn't make these silly preflop min raises. So he's just clicking buttons because he doesn't really know what he is doing but still wants to appear strong.
So I'd raise the flop bet, his bet is mostly a probe bet to see where he stands. (occasionally it will be to induce) If you just call 1bb how strong can you be? Answer= not very, and if he was an astute player he would know he can blast you out of the pot later in the hand.
If you make the flop 14-16bb and he raises then you can fold and sleep at night. There are a ton of small pairs set mining in the SB here and this flop hits that range, even if he has AA he should be nervous of raising you.
So if you bet 15bb say and he calls, just keep betting until he shows you you are beat. Fish usually can't wait to get their money in with strong hands and telegraph it.
As it played out he bet turn and river thinking he was ahead because you played it so weak. Sure you will lose to the occasional bigger pair here but you have to gamble with the fish a bit because you can never really be sure of their ranges.

Agree with all of this! Everything says he is a bad player, so stay aggressive and make him telegraph his hand. I would have probably shoved by turn bc if ur gonna call his (likely large) river spew, why now make the bet urself and get some fold equity? I can sleep soundly if he shows me a big pair.
 
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We dont want nor need fold equity, other then that, yeah! :)
 
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Pre is fine, but don't just call a 1BB bet, treat it like a check and it's back to you, how much would you bet? I'd CR and then bet turn and river.

As played, the guy is a bit of a kook, call/fold is pretty close. Call is slightly +EV considering how it was played.
 
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His line doesn't make much sense. It feels like 77 or a big pair for value and a lot of hands that are bluffing. I like calling against him and I think you played it fine. You can think about folding the river since it is such a big bet. But he might think you have ace high.
 
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