$5 NLHE 6-max: K8 vs river bet

CO: 22/22
SB: 36/9/ 11hands
i should have a decent fold equity against the raisor, OTF I'm betting for value, I'm not sure if I can go for value on turn. He doesn't have air in his range because the flop is dry and he shouldn't bet worse made hands so I'm most likely beat and it's a fold, ok?


IPoker, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BB: $6.43 (128.6 bb)
UTG: $4.87 (97.4 bb)
MP: $7.56 (151.2 bb)
CO: $1.57 (31.4 bb)
Hero (BTN): $5.02 (100.4 bb)
SB: $2.25 (45 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with K 8
2 folds, CO raises to $0.10, Hero raises to $0.30, SB calls $0.28, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.75) K 3 5 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.40, SB calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.55) J (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($1.55) 2 (2 players)
SB bets $0.77, Hero folds

Results: $1.55 pot ($0.07 rake)
Final Board: K 3 5 J 2
Hero mucked K 8 and lost (-$0.70 net)
SB mucked and won $1.48 ($0.78 net)

lets start with that K8is a pretty bad hand, 3bet with it is not a bad thing u r representing big hand. u get a call from SB not the original raiser, i like the cbet, it would be better if u bet the turn but its ok to check on the turn as a pot controlin case he have a set because the informations u have on n his hand his range any pocket and KQ thats the only hands he would call with. i see a call on the river.

bet the turn

Just flat pre. Villain's range is wide enough that top pair, Kings will usually be good and we have position. By 3betting we just fold out worse and get called by better.

I would prefer this 3bet if we were in the blinds, because we're OOP and we can just turn our hand into a bluff when he flats. In fact I usually resteal with K8o, but it's explicitly a bluff.

As played, I think check turn, call river. Not altogether certain we're good though.

Aleksei said:

Just flat pre. Villain's range is wide enough that top pair, Kings will usually be good and we have position. By 3betting we just fold out worse and get called by better.

I would prefer this 3bet if we were in the blinds, because we're OOP and we can just turn our hand into a bluff when he flats. In fact I usually resteal with K8o, but it's explicitly a bluff.

As played, I think check turn, call river. Not altogether certain we're good though.

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I'd think we're better off using our calling money from the river to bet on the turn. We've already turned our hand into a bluff, so pairing the K is pretty irrelevant aside from the fact that it makes it less likely that the villain has one. The J falls into our 3betting range, so I'd rather use it for fold equity rather than let the opponent draw to two pair or better when he's worse.

Like you said, we're not winning often with a river call anyhow, so why not use it to charge a draw/scare the opponent into expecting a third barrel?

Makes sense.

flatting pre is terrible, I'd 3-bet or fold. I don't mind this hand at all except I'd probably bet the turn. I think river is close.

thanks for the comments guys, I should've bet the turn because he's also got hands like A2/76 in his range and he would be less likely to lead the river.

3bet pre is standard, bet flop bigger, i dont mind checking back turn for pot control here. As played call river.