$5 NLHE 6-max: J9s Action packed!!! WTF PEOPLE! :)

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PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $5.15 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 6)
SB: $5.48 (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 19.05, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 64)
BB: $5.00
UTG: $5.58 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
MP: $3.23 (VPIP: 56.52, PFR: 30.43, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)
Hero (CO): $5.00

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has J:heart: 9:heart:

UTG raises to $0.15, fold, Hero calls $0.15, fold, SB calls $0.13, BB raises to $1.00, UTG calls $0.85, Hero calls $0.85, SB calls $0.85

Flop: ($4.00, 4 players) A:club: 2:heart: 7:heart:
SB checks, BB bets $3.83, UTG raises to $4.58 and is all-in, Hero calls $4.00 and is all-in, SB calls $4.48 and is all-in, BB calls $0.17 and is all-in
 
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This isn't a great hand.

Pre, 3 bet or fold this. I would fold.. J9 just doesn't play that well.

When it's 3 bet, just fold. Our hand rarely flops the goods, when it flops good it usually gives us draws. Those draws in a 3 bet pot multiway mean we have to pay to see if we hit. We end up stacking off a lot anyway to get there.

OTF, we can make the assumption that it's likely two players have aces. It's probable that at least one of those is the ace of hearts, diminishing your outs, giving a re-draw or even a higher FD to them. We are getting very good odds to call though. It all comes down to is our FD dead? I reckon so enough of the time to fold this.
 
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OTF, we can make the assumption that it's likely two players have aces. It's probable that at least one of those is the ace of hearts

dont rule out the sets of 22/77/AA (BB might hold the AA)
 
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dont rule out the sets of 22/77/AA (BB might hold the AA)

I wasn't indicating that they have an ace to beat us. We have J high, we are obv behind hands that gii. I was indicating that our outs aren't always clean.
 
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This isn't a great hand.

Pre, 3 bet or fold this. I would fold.. J9 just doesn't play that well.

When it's 3 bet, just fold. Our hand rarely flops the goods, when it flops good it usually gives us draws. Those draws in a 3 bet pot multiway mean we have to pay to see if we hit. We end up stacking off a lot anyway to get there.

OTF, we can make the assumption that it's likely two players have aces. It's probable that at least one of those is the ace of hearts, diminishing your outs, giving a re-draw or even a higher FD to them. We are getting very good odds to call though. It all comes down to is our FD dead? I reckon so enough of the time to fold this.


The main thing I saw there was Getting very good odds to call... I mean if we aint willing to call the flop? then it's a simple fold pre.
 
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IPlay always get the point :D

This hand looks like mine with the QTs but you got only FD and BDSD.
I learned that I have to fold pre after a 3-bet in multiway pot. Hope you can learn that too :D
 
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J9 is a 3 bet raising hand if you decide to play it. And the reason is its well hidden if you hit that's why people do play that hand. Quite a few poker books that actually talk about it. And you can typically stack someone when u do complete the hand with j9. Anyways that's my 2cents good luck at the tables
 
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yeah generally we 3bet with it and not flat it... but i did rcause of the amount of people in the hand .

do we seriously think we fold cuz someone has us dominated flush wise in 6max?? i know 9max things could be argued a bit more that way but still how often flush vs flush
 
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