$5 NLHE 6-max: In this flop ... bet or check behind?

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888 Poker - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (CO): 94 BB
BTN: 35.6 BB (VPIP: 23.08, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 13)
SB: 108.2 BB (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 42.86, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
BB: 101.4 BB (VPIP: 19.01, PFR: 17.36, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 124)
UTG: 65.8 BB (VPIP: 15.91, PFR: 15.91, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 47)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has T:spade: 9:spade:

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, SB raises to 11 BB, fold, Hero calls 8 BB

Flop: (23 BB, 2 players) 7:club: 3:spade: K:spade:
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (23 BB, 2 players) 2:spade:
SB bets 11.4 BB, Hero raises to 28.6 BB, SB raises to 97.2 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 54.4 BB and is all-in

River: (189 BB, 2 players) 8:diamond:
 
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I'd fold preflop to the 3 bet.

As played, check behind the flop seems OK. It depends on how aggressive your opponent is and how likely he is to check raise, though.
 
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Fold pre, don't even raise this when you've got bet button monkeys in the blinds.

Flop check is great.
 
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I would also fold pre. SB has raised a lot but it is his first 3bet which shows a lot more strength. As played I like the checkbehind on the flop.
 
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Against these kind of players i like having some hands that dominate his range or some blockers at least when i call a 3bet. Otherwise i wont even steal especially when the guy is an unknown basically.
If i had some info on him i would consider 4bet folding here but like i said against an unknown who is shaping up to be a LAG/Aggro fish i would fold this hand.

As played i would probably stab something like 2/3 pot as i would with all my bluffs and value hands on this particular board and 3 bet shove if he CRs.
I would check back my weaker kings and underpairs and some stronger FDs like AsTs+ QsJs and id say JsTs and Ts9s i would bet 65% and check 35%.

You can go for a delayed cbet on turn and barrel on the river with all these high FDs as they make good bluff hands cause you block so much of his Kx combos.

Checking is fine and i think the turn just plays itself.
I am really struggling to think of a hand that he would play this way.
I guess the turn improves 22 and some FDs he was looking to CR on the flop.
I think in general you will be doing just fine against these aggro opponents in these spots. There are going to show up with a lot of AsXx combos, smaller flushes and stuff like that. If he is looking to CR FDs than he might be looking to CR his sets, TPs and all of those probably get in on the turn as well so you are doing just fine equity wise.
 
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I think you played it fine. You risk getting raised on the flop and it would be tough to go with it there.
 
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The first thing I'd do is ignore Villain's stats. They are based on 21 hands. How many chances has she had to 3-bet in 21 hands? Hero's 3BB open was on the light side in a nickle game and invited a 3-bet. I have no problem with the call.

This is an good, but not great flop for hero, a flush draw with an over card spade. I love the check back on the turn. Villain gave you a free card take it.

The flush comes in on the turn and you are losing to A, Q, J high flushes. Just how many of those can Villain really have? You see 5 of the spades with the king. That leaves the 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, J, Q & A. How many combinations of those spade hands 3-bet? AQ & AJ 3-bets, but does, A8, or A7 or worse? QJ does, but does Q8 or J8 or worse? 87, 76 and even 65 might 3-bet. I'd guess you are losing to ~5 combinations. What none spade hands does Villain 3 bet, but not c-bet on the flop? AA or KK? (no, always c-bets). QQ, JJ and likely TT and 99 (although you block Ts & 9s) could check and c-bet the turn. Villain also 3-bets every off suit AK, AQ and maybe AJ pre, but may not c-bet . I'd guess she leads A of spades with every K Q and J, 11 combos. By my count, you have 5 losing combos, 11 to combos you are 85/15 against a flush draw and killing 3 less likely flush combos and bluffs.

Given the above I do exactly what you did, raise calling AI on the turn. Just calling is weak, giving him a cheap shot at her possible draw. When Villain pushes you need to call 54 to win 120, with a hand that is likely ahead. If Villain shows you a bigger flush, so be it. That's poker.
 
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I prefer check flop, call T, call R
Let him continue to bet weaker hands instead of isolating vs stronger hands.
 
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Fold pre-flop to the re-raise.
 
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Like the majority have said, fold pre-flop, you'll find the game will be easier to play.
 
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