$5 NLHE 6-max: How do you play this draw in the turn?

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888 Poker - $0.05 NL (6 max) FAST - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 51.2 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 5)
SB: 122.2 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
BB: 71.4 BB (VPIP: 21.95, PFR: 19.51, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 41)
UTG: 80.6 BB
MP: 85.4 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
Hero (CO): 57.2 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A:club: J:club:

UTG raises to 4 BB, fold, Hero calls 4 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (9.4 BB, 2 players) K:club: 8:spade: 9:heart:
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: (9.4 BB, 2 players) 9:club:
UTG bets 3 BB, Hero raises to 10.6 BB, UTG calls 7.6 BB

River: (30.6 BB, 2 players) 7:club:
UTG checks, Hero bets 22.8 BB, UTG raises to 66 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 19.8 BB and is all-in

Thanks in advance for your comments and advices...
 
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888 Poker - $0.05 NL (6 max) FAST - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 51.2 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
SB: 122.2 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
BB: 71.4 BB (VPIP: 21.95, PFR: 19.51, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 41)
UTG: 80.6 BB
MP: 85.4 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
Hero (CO): 57.2 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A<font color='black'>♣</font> J<font color='black'>♣</font>

UTG raises to 4 BB, fold, Hero calls 4 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (9.4 BB, 2 players) K<font color='black'>♣</font> 8<font color='black'>♠</font> 9<font color='red'>♥</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: (9.4 BB, 2 players) 9<font color='black'>♣</font>
UTG bets 3 BB, Hero raises to 10.6 BB, UTG calls 7.6 BB

River: (30.6 BB, 2 players) 7<font color='black'>♣</font>
UTG checks, Hero bets 22.8 BB, UTG raises to 66 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 19.8 BB and is all-in

Thanks in advance for your comments and advices...
A couple of things.

The preflop raise to 4 BB by the UTG, and your flat call. Maybe you test him right there and reraise to 10 bb. If you get reraised you know you are up against a premium hand ie AA KK QQ JJ AK. You could lose your 10 BB and bail out against a big reraise. He is npot going to come over the top of your reraise with 55 66 77 88 99 1010. He will flat call there.


He flat calls your reraise you can put him on a range of hands like 99 88 77 66 possibly 1010. But your preflop flat call gets you no information and is not optimal play. You have to get information as early and cheaply as you can. He could have KK, 99, 88 or anything ! Your are in the dark here...

The check check flop is kind of strange. Either he has air, or a monster. There is not much in between. Personally I think he has 99 or 88, but his turn bet of 3bb is also strange. It comes across as weak, but maybe he is hoping to induce a raise, or he does'nt want to chase action away.

Turn 9 gives him his boat in my opinion, and that river 7c is a really crappy card for you. You still don't know where you are, and I would also be calling his all in on the river (for $5 big deal), but I think you are losing here...

In a bigger game I flat call his river bet. I don't like the fact that the board is paired, even if I have the nut flush.

For me the money (won/lost) is irrelevant. It is like the tail wagging the dog! The real reward is learning from the situation, not repeating any mistakes, and advancing your level of play. For $5 it is a good lesson, and invariably we learn more from losing than winning :)
 
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actually, I think the only thing I would have done differently that you was when utg checked on flop, I would have put in 1/3 to 1/2 and gauge his response. His 3bb bet on turn seems to me like he has a draw, especially when he flat calls your raise. I put him on clubs as well. just my opinion, how did it end up?
 
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actually, I think the only thing I would have done differently that you was when utg checked on flop, I would have put in 1/3 to 1/2 and gauge his response. His 3bb bet on turn seems to me like he has a draw, especially when he flat calls your raise. I put him on clubs as well. just my opinion, how did it end up?

Amazing reading! he has 6c3c in this hand, and of course I put him a note :)
 
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just wanted to add, full stack please or auto rebuy

you just missed 23bb there
 
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I like the call pre, on the flop I would probably bet but I would also check some of the time. The reason I would like to bet this hand is because you can hit a club and countinue betting or hit an A or J and check back the turn, but I dont mind the check.
On the turn I think the raise is good, the bet is super small and looks like a block-bet of some sort.
On the river I dont like the 2/3 pot bet, I think you should just shove. The reason is that when he raises you are priced in to call. So he can now call all of his 9's or some K-pair hands and shove all full houses. I think its better to just shove, but I am not sure about this because you might get less value from K-pair. Would be fun if someone did the math but I am too tired :) . Also, as stated above, buy in for 100bb and turn on auto-top-up to 100bb.
 
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Just bet the flop and use your position. If people check in these spots, you'll make a good amount of money applying more than one street of pressure.

As played, just call the turn. What in the world are you repping w/ this raise? Any thinking player should be re-popping you here. It's 5nl, so maybe you can get away with it. But your hand looks like what it is, a draw or air.

Once he calls the turn raise he's polarized to draw or FH. River plays itself. You hit your card, you need to bet, he shoves, you can't fold.
 
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