$5 NLHE 6-max: Giing with Kings 200BB vs a nitty player??

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RFI - 1/13
AF = 2
3bet - 1/12 - 8% - it's from SB
No 4bet stats

pokerstars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 185 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, hands: 29)
Hero (SB): 332 BB
BB: 75.6 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
UTG: 100.4 BB
MP: 126.8 BB (VPIP: 26.97, PFR: 13.64, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 91)
CO: 143.6 BB (VPIP: 20.99, PFR: 14.47, 3Bet Preflop: 4.56, Hands: 1,474)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Ks Kd
fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.4 BB, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, BTN raises to 31 BB, Hero calls 21 BB

Flop : (63 BB, 2 players) 5d 2d 8c
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn : (63 BB, 2 players) Kc
Hero bets 35 BB, BTN calls 35 BB

River : (133 BB, 2 players) 6c



Question - Should I just GII pre here? His 4bet is quite large & very polarising.
But then on flop the check back confuses me.
And the river play??
 
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i have some questions: why did you not 4bet preflop?

the way you played, i think on the river you can bet for value 1/2pot or 2/3pot or some number between..
 
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Pre... no, you're 185 bbs deep. River, bet 75/call.
 
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I think that you should be looking to 5 bet, get it in pre flop. If he has Aces, oh well. He should have TT+ and AQs+ AKo enough here make this +EV long term.


As the hand played, it is a bit unorthodox. Villain raises, 4 bets, then checks back the flop. What can he have that does this? Any big pair would be betting here, to deny equity to an AK type hand or to stack off under pairs to his. If he had :ad4::qd4: (You block :kd4:) or any diamond draw he would bet the flop. Then he just flat calls the turn. If he was slow playing a flopped set, then he would want to raise here as you can easily have AK, you can even have :ad4::kd4:, or turn a club draw. Need to raise a set here to deny equity. If he has :ac4::qc4:, he may raise or call here. He might just have AK off suit, and be flatting for pot control.

River :6c4: appears to be a brick. It does complete straights, but if he is 4 betting preflop with 43 or 75, especially suited in diamonds, he would be betting the flop to get you to fold any AK type hand. So the only hand to really be worried about is :ac4::qc4:. On the river Pot is 133 BB, effective stacks are 119 BB., you need to bet. I feel that you have the virtual second nuts here. In these situations I am ready to get all my chips in. I think that you can just bet the pot, get all the button all in, or bet 35-40 BB and snap call an all in. I prefer the first option
 
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I think that you should be looking to 5 bet, get it in pre flop. If he has Aces, oh well. He should have TT+ and AQs+ AKo enough here make this +EV long term.


Not sure if you play on stars but your range is pretty damn wide.
General player pool is way nitty to call even 100BBs with TT/JJ & almost never AQ. QQ is also a maybe.
And his stats narrows his range a lot more. Could be some bluffs, other than that I sense QQ+,AK & could be TT,JJ,AQ but all are folding to a jam
 
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I like the 5-bet pre here given your positions. Show me AA.

As played, I think I agree with others...bet half pot/call.

Also, c-bet% would reeally help you here (even though small sample size)!
 
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I think you probably played it well. I don't think I could have kept myself from going for it pre tho. Not sure what makes sense from villain, AK?, AcQc like the earlier reply mentioned, if he plays it like that. I assume you played the river as a bet/call.
 
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29 hands can only be a guide and even tight players steal wide from the button.I agree with the way you played it. His flop check I see as mainly weak here. I'd read it as AK or some other Kxs that decided to 4bet bluff. He knows you are almost certainty paired in the hole and he knows you aren't folding on that flop so he checks behind to pot control.
I still wouldn't completely rule out AA trying to confuse you though.
So does AK call a shove...sometimes, you didnt 5 bet so likely dont have AA and if he has a K with one in the middle you only have 1 combo of KK.
In that case he probably thinks he's chopping AK most of the time. If he stupidly checked AA on the flop happy days so I think shoving is going to get called enough to make it worth it.
 
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A 5 bet would get all the info you need. If your opp. doesn't fold, you're a 4-1+ against all hands except 2. Crazy play post flop is the new norm.
 
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I like every street here as you played.

Are you check/raising this flop? I think I would be with the diamonds but check/calling seems OK because he isn't likely on suited cards with 4-bet or maybe I'm off on this thinking.


I would bet a little under half-pot on river hoping villain jams and call.
 
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Are you check/raising this flop? I think I would be with the diamonds but check/calling seems OK because he isn't likely on suited cards with 4-bet or maybe I'm off on this thinking..


Not check raising flop cause it has no point & folds all his bluffsMaybe leading turn & bet/shove river
 
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RFI - 1/13
AF = 2
3bet - 1/12 - 8% - it's from SB
No 4bet stats

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 185 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 29)
Hero (SB): 332 BB
BB: 75.6 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
UTG: 100.4 BB
MP: 126.8 BB (VPIP: 26.97, PFR: 13.64, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 91)
CO: 143.6 BB (VPIP: 20.99, PFR: 14.47, 3Bet Preflop: 4.56, Hands: 1,474)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Ks Kd
fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.4 BB, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, BTN raises to 31 BB, Hero calls 21 BB

Flop : (63 BB, 2 players) 5d 2d 8c
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn : (63 BB, 2 players) Kc
Hero bets 35 BB, BTN calls 35 BB

River : (133 BB, 2 players) 6c



Question - Should I just GII pre here? His 4bet is quite large & very polarising.
But then on flop the check back confuses me.
And the river play??
You only have 29 hands on villain, stats are not really to informative right now.As for the question at hand, GII pre, no.
The check on the flop was weak by both parties, You should have c-bet the flop.
If villain was 4-betting pre with AQc/AJc, quite possible on a 6 handed table, your check on the flop allowed the free card which may have given villain a reason to stick around.
Villains check on the flop could have been nothing more than weakness, villain missed and had given up on the hand.
 
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He may still have AA with the :ad4:. Good players will check back AA on these low boards. Trapping smaller PP or getting people to hit top pair on the turn.


Do you mind sharing the result with us?
 
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Wouldn't be GII here. You're deep stacked so I like the call. I think you played all streets well. Maybe a few more BBs on the turn, but that's nit picking. Value bet the river.
 
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you played as well as you could. trying to bleed out a few more chips preflop is pointless if both players fold.
 
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