€5 NLHE 6-max: Getting involved with TAG player who cant find a fold button

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PokerStars - €0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 130.8 BB (VPIP: 21.54, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 6.06, hands: 66)
BTN: 104 BB (VPIP: 52.38, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 21)
SB: 49 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
Hero (BB): 168.2 BB
UTG: 108.2 BB (VPIP: 24.49, PFR: 20.41, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 51)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A:club: T:club:

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, UTG calls 6 BB

Flop: (18.4 BB, 2 players) 4:club: 6:spade: 8:diamond:
Hero bets 11.6 BB, UTG calls 11.6 BB

Turn: (41.6 BB, 2 players) J:spade:
Hero checks, UTG bets 24 BB, Hero calls 24 BB

River: (89.6 BB, 2 players) Q:heart:
Hero checks, UTG bets 63.6 BB and is all-in, Hero?

Villain is quite fishy and aggressive, never folded to a cbet, always floats and leads when no one bets. I decided to 3-bet his open raise because I think I was ahead of him. When I c-bet I was sure he'd call, but with that turn card hitting his range pretty hard I checked. I feel like calling his float was a terrible idea, and I was more than happy folding in the river.

Any way I could've played this differently other than folding?
 
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Wtf, is this real? He's raising like 14% UTG, and that prompts you to voluntarily play a large pot out of position with a shitty hand?
 
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You're calling villain a TAG who can't find a fold button, yet you're calling a large bet on the turn in a bloated pot with just one overcard? Do you hate money or something??? :eek:

Just call preflop. Raising is just bad vs an UTG open, even a fishy one. You could even fold preflop, you're that bad vs an UTG open range.
As played, after he calls your c-bet (and he's not folding anything in his range here even without your read), the only course of action you should be taking is checking and folding.


This is exactly why you don't play bloated pots out of position with marginal hands.
 
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Call pre... You dominate his opening range, but not his 3-bet calling range. Flop just give up or bet half-pot (only because you have the nut BDFD). Without the bdfd, always just giving up with this hand. AK/A high with a bdfd/most pairs/most straight draws are floating.

Fold turn.
 
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check fold on the turn. Needn't call 24 bb
 
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Call pre... You dominate his opening range, but not his 3-bet calling range. Flop just give up or bet half-pot (only because you have the nut BDFD). Without the bdfd, always just giving up with this hand. AK/A high with a bdfd/most pairs/most straight draws are floating.

Fold turn.

U don`t dominate his range in any way and at NL10 i think they can be tight as ~10% from utg so u crushed then.
 
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He has a 20.5% PFR and is raising from MP and not UTG... A10s is slightly ahead of top 17% of hands.
 
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We are ok flatting pre but by no means are we dominating his range and we are OOP. I don't mind flatting or folding but 3 betting is pretty meh. I probably just fold unless I know villain is weak post. A10o I snap fold
 
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Don`t think that it was a good idea to call the turn. Honestly i fold AT against UTG, only exception is when it`s a multiway spot.
Also as played ch/fold flop, you tried the bloff and it didn`t worked.
 
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3betting is fine if their calling range is ultra tight... we will generate enough folds and when we hit hard we will get paid off... but need discipline to fold turn
 
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Once you check the turn you already giving villain some information on your range,fold the turn.But I prefer to flat or just fold pre.
 
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I'm folding pre. We're out of position and only ahead of the very bottom of his range.

3 bet bluffing here isn't so awful if he's capable of realising what hands you would 3 bet against his own perceived range. I don't think this is the case. Even then it's not a great move, just fold.
 
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