$5 NLHE 6-max: Folding Trips To 110bb River Shove

5NL 6-max zoom on pokerstars. Villain is unknown but presumably a 5NL zoom reg.

Hero (BTN) has $9.54
Villain (CO) has $12.61

Hero is dealt Kh Js
SB posts $0.02
BB posts $0.05
UTG folds
MP folds
Villain (CO) raises to $0.15
Hero (BTN) calls $0.15
BB calls $0.10

$0.47 in pot
Flop shows 3d 7d Jh

BB checks
Villain bets $0.45
Hero calls $0.45

$1.37 in pot
Turn shows Jc

Villain checks
Hero bets $0.75
Villain raises to $3.55
Hero calls $2.80

$8.47 in pot
River shows 2h

Villain bets $5.39 (to put hero all-in)
Hero folds

Do you think that this fold was justified, or was it too nitty?

Kind of a weird spot, I doubt that villain takes this line with QJ or worse. He can have quite a few draws after raising from the CO but this line would be super spewy as a bluff and I think villain would just keep barreling if he wanted to bluff.

I'm not sure what to think about calling that large of a turn raise and folding to 60% pot on a super blank river though. You only need 38% to break even on a call but with it being zoom and me not knowing how it plays. I can't comment but I will say spots like this is where a hud is invaluable.

With a hand like KJo OTB vs CO I'd rather 3-bet or fold. We don't have the initiative, can get squeezed by the blinds, and when we go multi-way we pretty much have to play fit-or-fold. Vs MP/UTG I'm just mucking it and moving on. It's not bad to just fold here, especially since you can just move on to the next hand in Zoom. I don't think just flatting here is going to be profitable, and in order to show a profit from 3-betting is probably going to require good hand reading and being able to barrel off with air at times, something I'm not comfortable with haha.

Vs that ridiculous turn raise though I'm folding. Looks like he's hoping you have a Jack. He also potted the flop 3-way, which is pretty strong. And the. When he check-raises turn as PFR, that's just super strong. I don't expect a bluff to check-raise like this, especially from a deep-stacker. Only one time has a deep stacker (220bb) barrel off into me his whole stack. It just looks like he's trying to set up a river shove with his full house, given how deep we are. He might be doing this with AJ, but he should realize that's a little too thin/overreps his hand for 200bb, and probably 3-barrel that instead.

I feel that you shouldve just gotten it in on the turn honestly. If he has the 4th and last Jack in the deck and happens to have the only kicker that beats you then so be it. I think you shouldve 4 bet it or shipped it regardless of how much you had behind or turn. But river changes nothing its $5 to win $13. Do you really think you arent good 33ish% percent of the time.

Against a reg, KJ is getting into that zone of hands that are dominated, and don't make that many higher hands (straights, flushes). I think the decision is fold vs. call personally. 3-bet seems spewy unless villain folds like 85% to 3-bets.

There might be an argument for checking back the turn. 2 diamonds give us a boat, and all straight draws are gutshots. I still probably bet, but the line should either be bet/fold or bet/shove. Calling and then folding to a half pot shove seems pretty ugly.

folding the set

considering villain imediately came out with a strong bet hints to me after flop of an over pair or A J suited . Would be nice to know how players had been betting in other hands . I doubt a small pocket pr. ( Though I have been stung twice that way .. lol ) I would have called that bet . there was no flush or str8 possibilities so odds were good .

3bet . Raise the guy flop and shove turn

Aces2w1n said:

3bet

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You realize that when we get called, KJ is certainly losing us money postflop, right?

Not if they are a nit that doesn't fight back to 3-bets and has high fold vs 3-bet. KJo is not strong enough to call, so it's 3-bet or fold. I prefer just folding, as to make it profitable would require super strong postflop edge and an opponent who doesn't fight back often enough.

I don't know why people are saying call here. For 200bb in a single-raised pot this is like 99% of the time the nuts. AJ is the very minimum we'll see here. Most of the time I'm expecting a boat. The turn call was a mistake, but just fold the river as played.